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MA Top 12: Infants and Intimacy Ft. Tammy Franklin and Carrington Franklin-Nakwaasah (S1 Ep.7)

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MA Top 12: Infants and Intimacy Ft. Tammy Franklin and Carrington Franklin-Nakwaasah (S1 Ep.7)
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Hey Ma! We’re hitting rewind and spotlighting our "MA Top 12" — the standout episodes from our first three seasons of Moms Actually. From October 12 to December 28, don’t miss the moments that defined us. Join us as a we take a trip down memory lane as we prepare for Season 4. 

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Do you feel like intimacy is a distant memory after having kids? Joined by our special guests, Tammy and Carrington Franklin, we take an honest look at self-confidence, creating special moments with your partners, and setting  boundaries for our kids.

We discuss:

  • The reality of body image struggles post-baby and how to rewire our minds to embrace physicality and affirmations from our partners. 
  • The significance of mentorship and the role of a strong support system. 
  • The rollercoaster of motherhood, emphasizing the importance of grace, communication, and gratitude towards our pillars of support. 
  • Creative ways to get intimate after kids 

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Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Tammy and I'm Carrington, and we're on the couch of moms, actually, and we're so excited.

Speaker 2:

Stay tuned for our episode, hey mom.

Speaker 4:

We're back with another episode of moms, actually where motherhood meets sisterhood. Today we have not just one special guest, but two special guests. We have Mrs Tammy Franklin as well as Carrington Franklin. Thank you for the grace.

Speaker 5:

I am Blair and. I'm so pa. Yes, well, y'all ready? Yes, what are we talking about today? What we talking?

Speaker 3:

about today.

Speaker 5:

Today it's so here I'm gonna tell you guys what we do. We play a little game called it's giving Motherhood and honestly, this is a great game to play before this topic today. So this is what we're gonna do. You get grab your paddle here. Gold means yes, white means no. I'm gonna read these questions. You only have a couple seconds to answer the first answer, the right answer. Okay, okay, all right, all right. Sex doing pregnancy or no?

Speaker 4:

Definitely.

Speaker 5:

Were you scared to have sex after babies? Didn't feel the same after the babies? Did you feel sexy after having kids Now? Do you feel sexy now? Do you schedule sex? Yes, sometimes. Do you feel comfortable being naked?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's like sometimes Okay so let's just jump right into it. Good job y'all.

Speaker 5:

What holds you back from feeling comfortable like being naked around your husband? Yeah, I'm like. Next is first.

Speaker 1:

I find the more confident I am in myself, the more confident I am around him.

Speaker 1:

He doesn't care, and what I mean, we've been married 26 years and one of the things that makes me feel so beautiful is that he's loved me no matter what. Yeah, so it's about me loving myself, and sometimes I intentionally push past that and be like girl this your man, y'all be like yeah, I emptied this, you know. So sometimes I do push past the fear, but it's amazing to me, as women, how I'm letting y'all know that you have to just continue to work on that. I've been married, of course, longer than you all, but it's something that's still 26 years later. I still. It's still working.

Speaker 5:

So do you guys get dressed up for your man, like, do you do the whole lingerie thing? Or you're like, look, I'm naked here, I'm in a bed. Take me as I am, like do you? Do the whole thing, or do you just it's acted all these years, or after kids, because sometimes after a full day of mommying like who has time to get cute?

Speaker 1:

Well, as I said, I'm empty nester.

Speaker 5:

Oh she has the time. This is who has the time.

Speaker 1:

So I got a little more time today, but it just, I mean, it depends, I would say, for y'all. Probably too, it just kind of depends on sometimes I'll go and I'm realizing that it's been a while since I've done something special like that and I'm like wait a minute, let me, let me jizz it up. Yeah, I got like spontaneous yes.

Speaker 3:

Because I have like a, I got a drawer, I got like all this stuff and then I don't know I have a morning.

Speaker 4:

You know what I used to have all of that, but my husband is like I don't have the time he does like all the stuff.

Speaker 5:

Yes, he's like, I appreciate it, but he's like actually I'll be fine. Have you guys ever tried garters? You can't get your underwear off. I don't know what I'm saying. No me, I'm just kidding. Have your kids ever walked in on you?

Speaker 3:

Yes, my kids have not, but his mom has.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh, okay, we don't talk about that, but is there like how do you?

Speaker 5:

set the boundaries, like do you have a better time where you're like, okay, I know that the kids are not going to walk in, so I you know do you?

Speaker 2:

have that time for you. That time is the time.

Speaker 4:

That's the time. Hey, maybe I just need to get better. We're not setting him outside to the backyard. We'd be like go play outside.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm joyous, stay here. Mine is old enough to do that.

Speaker 1:

Mine is when it's three. Oh, two, yeah, he just turned to me so when our kids were younger, we would just sneak away to the closet.

Speaker 3:

Oh, and we kind of knew what that meant. You were talking about the closet before.

Speaker 2:

I was like me, me, me, me, me. I'm kids.

Speaker 5:

Okay, mrs Ur, she's like wait a minute. I went to that closet to get something to wear, you know.

Speaker 1:

She's like I remember that closet yes, we had a closet look like oh, oh All right, I'm going to go see you in a minute.

Speaker 4:

We just had the conversation about the closet. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 5:

It was like you know little one, two in the closet real quick.

Speaker 3:

Not a one two, a little one two. Was that the one?

Speaker 5:

at the wedding. Okay, y'all, oh, so, okay, so like, sometimes I feel like you got to spice it up, especially like for me. I'm not always the best at like consistency. So one time we did, you know, sneak away. We were a bride, I was a bridesmaid, he was the groom's men and the reception was snuck away. And we told the bride we was like, yeah, we was, you know she was like yeah, she was like I'm so honored.

Speaker 5:

She thought it was the greatest thing. But yeah, I mean, I think it's more like the spontaneity of things can kind of spice things up too, Instead of like the same old, same old. I wish I could do it more In my head. I'm so spontaneous Like I think about all the stuff I'm going to do during the day and then the evening comes and it's like the morning you and then the afternoon, the night you is not the same person. Suggestion like okay, please tell us.

Speaker 1:

Do not wait till the. I learned not to wait till the evening. Okay, if you feel it, you feel it. Okay and go with it. Otherwise things happen. Yeah, I won't have it.

Speaker 5:

I mean, sometimes they may say some crazy like you know what I missed it on you don't know what I had planned for you. Right, you did not do that dish I'm dry though. Forget it. I should try it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I'm like yeah, yeah, you know, I'm gonna make it through.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna make it.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna make it. So I learned, just if I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it, you know, and you know they feel it as soon as you feel it.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

So don't practice not waiting until the night.

Speaker 3:

There's nothing magical about the night. Keep us married. Keep us happily married.

Speaker 1:

Nothing, because I mean you end up being tired. Yes, emotions change, something happens.

Speaker 5:

So do you make up for it when you fall asleep on your man? Like, how do you make up for that? Because I know I fall asleep sometimes? Yeah, I'm falling asleep, so what y'all do?

Speaker 4:

I hype him up the next day. I'm like all day, All day, texting memes. Does he notice? Is?

Speaker 2:

he going to watch this and be like, hold on? I don't think so.

Speaker 4:

Maybe I don't know, but that's how we kind of keep it spicy too. It's like every day. He does it better than me, though, of course. Yes, but yeah.

Speaker 5:

Sometimes I still feel it. I have a shared calendar, so when I'm really like feeling it, I'll like put on his calendar FaceTime yeah.

Speaker 4:

FaceTime.

Speaker 3:

FaceTime, facetime. But no, I have a question for you, karen Tim, when we were doing the paddles, you said it doesn't feel quite the same as before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know things are a little different. I did have a natural birth so yeah, things seem like they maybe moved around a little bit. I mean it feels, you know better than that.

Speaker 5:

I'm sure it is. I'm sure he feels fine. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I asked my husband that though. I'm like, does it feel different? Yeah, you did. No, really. Yeah, they don't care at this time they don't, and it's us. I'm thinking a lot too Like again going back to the mom body and just like my stretch marks and my boobs that have been, you know, through three breastfed children. I'm like, ooh, my boobs are just kind of swinging.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

They get different too, just inflated A little communion juice.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh, can help with that.

Speaker 5:

Communion juice, that's true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, help with that.

Speaker 5:

Just, you know, I'm thinking about like music, I have to have music, so Bermond always laughs because.

Speaker 3:

I'm like I'll put on a playlist, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I put on some like yeah, we have a playlist, yeah, I put on, like the other day.

Speaker 3:

I went on. You know my iPhone. No, I didn't make it. I just looked up sex playlist and they exist. It's already there. You don't even have to make a mixtape like back in the day.

Speaker 1:

Did you like the song? I don't remember the song.

Speaker 3:

I guess they did the job. That's good yeah.

Speaker 5:

I think my thing is like, when the kids are there, they're like knocking on the door, it's like it throws me off and I'm like, or I'm always thinking about, like what if, even if they're in their room or like doing something? I feel like there's sometimes where I'm like what if the kids need something? Or what if they, you know, want to walk in, or like whatever the case, like in my husband, like if you like, these kids do not matter right now, like I think I just have to get over that. Like, is that something that you guys have have had, where you're like I'm always thinking about the kids needing something, or you know you're like no nap time.

Speaker 3:

They wake up during that time, they don't go to sleep during that time.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I know what do you do she said they outside playing, they outside playing. He locked the door. Yes, he did, but we also have windows to the backyard so we can see them. And it's getting.

Speaker 3:

So, you just be like.

Speaker 4:

You know what? Sometimes, yes, but I feel, like. That's what makes it more fun, because, like, we're watching them.

Speaker 5:

Make sure they're like yeah, we just laugh about it and we just keep doing it yeah, yeah, I feel like the quickies for me, like I'm like quickies are where it's at because we're. Who has time for a full song?

Speaker 3:

and dance. One time my daughter was upstairs. You said I had time. You said I had time.

Speaker 5:

You want a full show. I need the full play, I need everything.

Speaker 4:

That's a good point.

Speaker 1:

It depends on the whole thing. Sometimes I need quick and sometimes I do want to be romantic, the whole romance.

Speaker 5:

That's the thing too. I feel like when you're for me, I'm like I've been in this messy bun all day, just kind of the big t-shirt and all that Like I want to feel sexy. But it's hard to feel sexy if I've been moming, so it's almost like I need my husband to be like hey, like.

Speaker 3:

To remind you your life as well.

Speaker 1:

But that's why.

Speaker 3:

I got all the lingerie I don't wear because I'm like when you try it on, it's like oh, it's like oh, I'm hanging out by myself, you know Like I feel

Speaker 5:

like I like myself today. Yes.

Speaker 4:

I think a struggle I had when it came to like my body after having babies was the, the touching. You know I felt like breastfeeding and, like the first six months, I was like don't? I felt tapped out, touched.

Speaker 5:

Touched, touched. Yeah, I was just like, well, and can y'all explain that, because a lot of people actually don't even really know what that is? Carrington shared that with me?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I never heard of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, I was breastfeeding as well. So like when you always have the baby on you and then you put the baby down for a quick moment and your husband's all of behind you, you know, whispering out I'm like, I'm like you know, you know you're showing the baby. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

That you aren't like turned on by him.

Speaker 2:

It's not that you don't love him, but you literally it's like it's over stimulation and you don't feel like your body is your own anymore, like for that moment. I was just like. You know that touched out feeling is really overtaken.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'll be cooking in the kitchen, he'll come like try to hug me. I'm like, I promise I love you and I like you and I'm attracted to you, but no, like I, just I need my moment.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, even for me, like the breakfast, I don't know, I had to kind of like, like, retrain my mind. It was like the breastfeeding, and then right after it was just like yeah.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if they'll be yours again, but he loved Didn't have like the.

Speaker 4:

I didn't feel like I felt very insecure with my breasts, obviously because they changed a lot, but like he Really affirms me in that, so I think that made me more comfortable. Like he really affirms me, he's like these are mine.

Speaker 5:

I'm like how often do you affirm yourself yeah, cuz I feel like we've talked about that too. Like you know, I know for me, no matter how many times my husband says you're so beautiful, I love your body, I'm like, oh my gosh, like if I'm looking down, you know, like the looking down is a horrible. Yeah it's. But no, seriously, just making sure I'm like I've started trying to like wear better things around the house, and you know so that when I do look in the mirror I'm like, okay, I'm cute.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, really showing up for yourself. What would you say to a mom that's like struggling with that a little bit? I Mean.

Speaker 1:

I've expressed that in 26 years I still feel that way and I think that it is a daily practice, depending on what you're going through in the moment also as well.

Speaker 1:

I mean, when I find that if life itself is it's stressful and a lot, then I need to maybe go and do those things that fill me up. If that's, I mean, sometimes for me that's a walk, that's definitely prayer, you know, going to, you know, my mom, who I'm really comfortable with to talk about those types of things, or just a mentor, somebody that can just you know, that's been there, yeah, and that's done it. I think it's so helpful to have that.

Speaker 2:

Because that's who she is for me to play. I know we really are like best friends, I mean we're close in age, but it's just like that's who I go to, for you made me sign up. That was a child. Like you just tend to have that close relationship with your mom.

Speaker 2:

But I know a lot of women don't have that and so I'm really grateful for the relationship that we have, but this is like my best friend though she's like we talk about so much and she's like just a non-biased, like that, like sound reason, like I know, if I'm having a day with my husband or my child, like she's gonna give me some like real advice and just be real about it. I think that's important too, just to have somebody like around you that can, you know, pour into but also keep you accountable. Yeah, and that's who she is for me.

Speaker 3:

I Want, noble, to say that.

Speaker 5:

I have my daughter at 20, so she's 10 now, yeah, and I'm just like I I hope to be like this, like we're pretty close now we, you know we have a good time. She's only 10 though, but I hope that she is always like leaning on me and she's because you have like about, do you have boundaries, like do you have things where you're like I'm not gonna say my mom with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, of course. Okay, I mean, yeah, there are certain things like mama's like really Like in your you know marriage, like you have to protect your husband on a certain level when you're telling you know your family certain things, or your mother certain things, but I'll always know that she's gonna be like in the best interest of our marriage, you know so.

Speaker 5:

Do you know pda like in front of your kids? Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3:

That's very important to me. Yeah, so you saw that.

Speaker 2:

Please.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I'm a mama, show that like it's not a bad thing. You know you want them to see you.

Speaker 1:

You tell that recently Me and my husband had a little evening and you know the clothes all over the place, and so he sends a picture. We have a, a, a group photo op. We have a text thread where it's me, carrington, my sister and then and our cousin, and so and we include him sometimes, and so he sends it to the, to the, to the music On purpose.

Speaker 2:

On purpose, he was like this is what I gave your mama last night.

Speaker 1:

I want to be up. Carrington has left the conversation.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like yo, this is too much. Wow, it's too much. Yeah, I mean, I've grown to appreciate that.

Speaker 5:

No, cause it's kind of like you you want to keep that same energy with your husband, Exactly.

Speaker 3:

Wow, noble, literally looks at us like this when we kiss. She's like aw, like she'll just stare at us, and I love that, because I didn't really see that with my parents. So, it's very important to me, like we're purposeful about it, like, well, I'd say Norman's more purposeful about it.

Speaker 3:

I try to make sure I don't do the when he does it Cause I don't want to teach her that, Like even things, he gives me kisses and he has like wet kisses and I'm a dry kiss girl, so it's like he'll kiss me and I will like go like this. So then Noble started doing that and talking about his wet kisses and I'm like they're doing everything.

Speaker 4:

I have two kids and one is like oh, that's so sweet, my oldest one, and the other one, the younger one, is like ew, every single time. But I love it too because, you know, I didn't have that growing up, I didn't get to witness any type of affection, and so it's really cool that my husband, I, get to be an example for my kids.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah. Well, we have every week a mom writes in for a letter and so we want to go ahead and read. Oh, I love that. Do you have that? I have the letters you do, so go ahead and read it. So what?

Speaker 3:

she, she got to say. So today's letter, this is a good one, guys. Okay, hey, ma, I've recently had our second child and I realized I'm saying no to sex a lot more than I'm saying yes. It's not that I don't want to, but I'm tired and sex just feels like more work between the getting in the mood, the actual act and the cleanup. Lol. These those things were never an issue before kids. How do I get back that excitement about sex? How do I rebuild the intimacy so I see it as a connection and not work, like doing it for you and not just a pleaser husband Cause, like for me, like once we I'm good, like it's great, but it's like getting to that. Yes, exactly, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I don't have to answer girl.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was about to say I don't have to answer, like I would be interested to know what y'all think having multiple kids, cause I only have one right now. Yeah, so what?

Speaker 5:

I gotta think about it honestly, because for me, I feel like I have been in that position where I'm so burnt out from all the things of the day and I have so many things going on in my mind. I'm just kind of like, yeah, this is when I'm in it. It feels great. I'm like why don't I do this more often? I always am like why don't I do this more often?

Speaker 3:

afterwards they roll over and go to sleep and we're like you gotta go shower. Just so you know you're in it, Don't like you're watching this, but you have to pee after sex. So that means you have to get up. You gotta go to the restroom.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it will be nice to, it will be nice to roll over, but that's, that's not what, you know, women can do. So, yeah, I feel like I start. I actually before I would say last year, no, yeah, this time last year I actually struggled with like endometriosis, cervical cancer, all of that stuff, and so prior to actually it was hard to even have sex. So even that, and now that I've had the surgery and I'm good, now I'm like, okay, I'm ready. I'm more like ready to do things, but it still sometimes feels like work and but I'm excited that we can be more consistent. The consistency is like it's almost like when you're like, okay, I just got to get on the train, and once you get on that train, because how many times a week is like okay.

Speaker 3:

Oh, how many times a week should we be having sex?

Speaker 1:

I say as often as you want to.

Speaker 5:

But like I mean, what would that average?

Speaker 1:

I mean, it depends on the week and it depends on the couple. It depends on where you, the season of life you're in.

Speaker 1:

There's so many. I mean you know components to that and I love, you know, the letter. I love the fact that she desires it. That's the first part of it is is desiring it and then making sure, okay for me. You know, I've had all of these feelings and it was. You know it's gonna sound weird, but it was. It was prayer and I was. I was like Lord, help me, prioritize, help me, desire, help me. I mean me and the Lord in my shower.

Speaker 1:

We was, you know my shower was my church and just you know, just like help me, does that help me? Because I don't. I don't like the fact that sometimes I would cringe, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I hate it, I hate that and hate how that possibly makes them feel as well, and so you know there have been times where I had to check in with Tammy and say, okay, is there any unchecked frustrations that you have with him or yourself? And I can tell when I have them and I don't address them then that it affects it.

Speaker 5:

I also used to feel like I'm not, like. I'm just like in my, my womanhood. I kind of like felt like I'm not, like something's not working or something. Like I'm like because I'm so tired and because my desire wasn't necessarily there all the time. It was like in my, a real, like woman, like I'm supposed. I feel like I'm supposed to be doing all these things as a wife, but I the motherhood thing is just. It takes me out.

Speaker 3:

It definitely throws a curb. It throws, and then your hormones.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, oh, the hormones are so all over the place after you get birth, cause I feel like that's six weeks to me it's not enough time.

Speaker 3:

I was so scared the first time. I was just scared. I was like I just put a bowling ball out of there, like what is going to go in there, like hello Scary.

Speaker 5:

Because then I feel like I just felt like I wasn't prepared or, you know, I wasn't good enough almost.

Speaker 1:

So that's what and then their anticipation adds yeah, like the pressure.

Speaker 3:

They can't, they're like five weeks, six days, I mean yeah, five weeks, six days Literally counting, like my husband, I think, literally had like a calendar reminder, I think Norman was like well, technically, you know you research everything trying to find the loophole. Like, well, technically, you don't have to. He went to the doctor with me and was like so we're good now, right?

Speaker 5:

I'm like yeah.

Speaker 3:

He was like doctor. I'm blinking twice, yeah.

Speaker 5:

Do you have any other tips for this month?

Speaker 4:

I think for me what helped me as like a mom too, was just understanding or even just reminding myself that my husband has needs too, and that was very helpful for me is just like being intentional with that, because at the end of the day, he's human, he's a parent, I'm a parent, like we're both doing it together. So I may feel depleted, but like when we are together and we have that intimacy, it just does something to you, like it refills you, it gives you that peace, even though it's so hard to do it at times or get there. But the getting, I feel like the getting there is the hard part, but like, once you're in it, all of the things that like makes you feel so overwhelmed or makes you feel like I can't handle this. It's a lot, it goes away, you know.

Speaker 5:

Do you walk your spouse through that process, that mindset, like? Because I think, sometimes, even with that letter, I wonder if she has told her husband that, hey, like I'm struggling with this right now, like I'm having a hard time, because I think I've, you know, expressed that with my husband and it's nice that we can communicate about it so he can be more mindful and understand where I'm at, and it's like, babe, it's not that I don't love you, it's not that I'm not attracted to you, it's like, right now, these are all the things that's going through my mind and my body, and I think that that part is kind of important too.

Speaker 4:

First kid I was definitely like that, like I felt like I just couldn't communicate because I felt so shameful. I was like I just didn't know how to tell him Like it's not you, it's just literally me. You know, I can't control my emotions, I can't control how I feel. Second kid I'm like, look, baby, I'm just really tired, you know, and so it's like easier for me to do.

Speaker 3:

I do, but it's like I you can only say that so much Like if someone turned me down, like my husband was turning me down for sex over and, over and over again, he's just, I'm tired, I'm like I don't care how many times you tell me that Like I would still take it personal. So I feel like it has to be like fixed and addressed and you have to work on it.

Speaker 1:

Cause it's just Well, you can't tell them and just leave it there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, just gotta be like actually To work.

Speaker 1:

I think it's great that you mentioned the fact that cause that's the part of becoming one that you're talking about things and you're becoming friends and comfortable.

Speaker 5:

Cause they're not my readers.

Speaker 1:

They're not.

Speaker 5:

They're really. I mean literally I wish, I wish In anything, in anything. They do not read in my-.

Speaker 3:

Selected. I wish I could like be like. This is for you. Oh yeah, that's true, yeah.

Speaker 5:

So we just want to say to you, the mom who wrote in which, thank you for your letter and your vulnerability. Your transparency is talk with your spouse, you know, let them know what's going on and also grace yourself. A lot of motherhood and the journey in itself is about grace, because you have to. You gotta process your body, you have to process your hormones, you gotta process the journey, and it's all about grace and communication and really just speaking into yourself as well. So thank you for that. Do you guys have anything else for them? Any other gems? Some of your things.

Speaker 1:

I just love the fact that she cares, that's.

Speaker 4:

I mean that's like.

Speaker 1:

The big part of it Is that she cares yeah absolutely.

Speaker 5:

I agree. Well, I think that's it y'all. I think we're done, we're done, yeah, yeah that's so much fun.

Speaker 1:

Yes, no more questions, no more questions no.

Speaker 5:

more questions no. I really thought yeah, I mean if you guys have anything that you want to address, like is it especially for you? It's like you're a first time mom.

Speaker 3:

Even if it's not about intimacy. Is there anything that you would want? A first time mom or a mom? To know that no one told you or you didn't take heed to Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

You know, I would really just encourage women to have the grace like extend yourself the grace in every day, parenting Like you're going to need grace, like the amount of grace that you need to give yourself is going to be different from day to day, that's true and what you face on the daily. So I would just yeah, I would just say give yourself the grace, give your husband or your significant other the grace, because it can get ugly real quick and then give your baby the grace, like y'all are all like trying to get it out.

Speaker 1:

Y'all are all learning, yeah, all learning together. Y'all you knew moms. This has been a different. You know I have to give props to my daughter because I have seen her. I'll give a little teary, but I've just seen her just be the most amazing mom to this little boy. She had him four weeks within the shutdown. Oh, my Birthday plan had to completely change. That was out of the door.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was actually allowed to be. He almost couldn't my mom wasn't, I couldn't come, I couldn't come to the hospital.

Speaker 4:

And we were talking about it earlier.

Speaker 2:

She's my first, and so I mean we were like ceiling on color purple but so upset and heartbroken.

Speaker 1:

But I've seen Karen to rise to the occasion for this little boy and you know it has given me a total different sensitivity to these moms that have had babies within this craziness, and so she's doing a dirt on that y'all.

Speaker 2:

I've just been so proud of her.

Speaker 1:

How are you doing?

Speaker 2:

You know, now I'm good. You know, when it was back in, you know, maybe 2020, the, you know, april, it was so rough. You know, mentally I was just in a really dark spot, but through prayer, a little bit of therapy, through my, through my fam, bam, and that's my aunt, my mom, my cousin, you know, just talking to other moms that were going through the same thing, just having community, I think that was the part that really, you know, got me through to where I am now.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's really the, it's the village that matters so so much. That's why we're here, because in motherhood you can have like so many people around you and still feel very alone. Or like, if you don't have, like you guys are so blessed to have the relationship that you have. But a lot of moms that you know they may have an estranged relationship with their mom and they're just trying to figure it out, or even just having that like sisterhood. It's just so important. It's so, so important. I feel like it's key to getting through the journey.

Speaker 1:

Well, this will be helpful for those moms that don't necessarily have that. What you ladies are doing is amazing. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5:

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