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Love & Healing: How Apryl Jones Got Her Groove Back
What does it truly mean to be a single mother, and how can we find healing and freedom in embracing our individual journeys? This week, we're honored to have reality TV star and actress Apryl Jones join us to talk about healing after ending high-profile relationships and finding strength and resilience as a mom. As she opens up about her experiences, you'll find yourself inspired by her in a new way!
In this conversation, we talk about:
- The challenges of postpartum anxiety
- How she found her way back to herself after a difficult breakup
- Her unwavering commitment to self-care
- Her relationship with Taye Diggs
- How she openly communication with her children
- The importance of surrounding yourself with supportive people
If you've ever struggled with feeling alone or overwhelmed as a single parent, then this is sure to remind you that your journey, and the experiences that come with it, are valid and absolutely worth celebrating.
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Hey Ma, welcome back to Moms, actually, where motherhood meets sisterhood. I cannot believe we are already halfway through the season. Thank you so much for all the listens, downloads, comments, reviews. By the way, if you have not written a review yet, what are you doing? But we are just so grateful. This week we have April Jones on for the episode where we are talking singleness. We are talking postpartum healing and just overall freedom, honey. So let's just get right into it.
Speaker 2:No, and everybody, stop blaming me for Billy Baker, please. No, no, no, no. I have nothing to do with that. What's up, hey Ma, what's up?
Speaker 3:Hey Ma, what's up? Hey Ma, what's up. Hey Ma, what's up. Hello, welcome to Moms. Actually I'm Blair, this is Morgan and this is our special guest, april Jones. Hey girl.
Speaker 2:Hi, how are you? I'm amazing. How are you guys? Good.
Speaker 3:Good. I'm feeling really good. It's always nice to be with you guys.
Speaker 1:I know I'm excited to have you here.
Speaker 3:You too.
Speaker 1:Look, so we do something called It's Giving Motherhood. It's a little icebreaker just to get everybody like, warmed up real light, and so this is what I'm going to do. It's like a rapid fire. So if you have been with us before we had the paddles and we did all these you know the twist and turns. But this time we're just going to do it a little bit different, so we're switching it up on you. But I'm going to say a word, and whatever word comes or phrase comes to you first is what you said.
Speaker 1:And the first thing is the writing First thing is the writing Always, always, always, ok, ok, all right, ready Self-care.
Speaker 3:Mommies OK Dating apps.
Speaker 2:Raya.
Speaker 1:Girls Night Out.
Speaker 2:Oh, girls Night Out The club? OK, i don't know Reality TV. Love and Hip Hop. Hollywood Plitties.
Speaker 3:Like my kids. Ok, the best man Hades.
Speaker 1:Single parent.
Speaker 3:OK.
Speaker 1:All right, that was good. Ok, so we like jumped right into that. In this episode we're really wanting to talk about, like, the single mother life And we've done a couple episodes about it before. But we really want to dive in and we love getting other perspectives as well, because everybody does things differently. They have different feelings about some, the way motherhood goes when it's when you're single. So I personally have been a single mother before and I always resonate with other moms and just love to hear their stories. Now I have a question for you, because we last I think it was season one, hey, mar, we had a basically a. It was a big old debate.
Speaker 3:An online debate. It was an online debate about Hundreds of thousands of comments, really.
Speaker 1:OK, about the word or the term single mother. Ok, and what does it actually mean to you? What's the? They're saying Tay-Mars, not a single mother, like they're saying. Yeah, they're saying there's a difference between a single mom and a single parent, which is still doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3:It may not even single.
Speaker 2:I think for me, when you say single mom, it really is because I'm so literal. You're single, right, and you're a mother, exactly So I've. But I also for me because I do things when I have my kids, me and their dad go every other week When I have my kids. I take care of my kids. I am a single parent. Yes, just the way he will be a single parent. We're not in a relationship. But then I also think like, well, what if I was getting financial help and all that? Would it still, in turn, make me a single parent? because I would be receiving, but I don't.
Speaker 1:So for me.
Speaker 2:I categorize myself as a single parent, but now, because I'm in such a healthy relationship, i have help. So I am a single parent because these are my kids, but I have a partner who loves all my children and supports me, so I don't feel as single as I used to be, but I still am a single parent, yeah.
Speaker 3:Because I take it literally too. It's like I'm not married or dating Like, so I'm single. Yeah, you're not married, or?
Speaker 1:single. Yeah, I just don't think that it should have anything. A lot of people in the comments were definitely and you kind of spoke to it too they were talking about like the financial part of it, Like, oh, if you, you know, if you get help or if you have nannies or whatever the case may be, which I, it doesn't matter, And we talk about this all the time, Even when you have help, that kid will come right past the nanny. The, the, the, the maybe say her name.
Speaker 1:The grandmother, yes, You know, whoever it is to come to you And, like you said, even if it's like you have a great co-parenting relationship that week, that child is in your possession. It's it's your responsibility And it also doesn't take away from how you feel.
Speaker 1:Like you still have the single like I. I think there was a. I know, for me there was a point when I was a single mom I was like, okay, i kind of I almost felt like a failure a little bit, but I knew that it was healthy, yeah, like the decision was healthy. But you have to heal from that.
Speaker 2:Like you have that moment of like I'm alone for a second And then when you start dating, but even when you're in a relationship as women, i still feel like you still feel alone, like I've heard so many women say this like and not to like, talk down on men is just that. like, like you said, the kids always run to mommy. Like it is our responsibility. And no matter what it really does. Take a village. They don't say that for anything, So yeah, man, when you guys were, You guys were to the single moms out there doing your thing.
Speaker 3:No, when you guys were talking, I'm married and my husband's there, But I was like, well, if it's, you do most of the stuff. I was like am I a single parent? Because, because that's why I was like what's the technicalities of it? Because, again, they can be literally right next to him and ask me permission or ask for things.
Speaker 1:And I'm just like yeah, my husband travels and so there are times I'm like I'm living the single mom life this week, and I say that because it feels that way, like you don't have help or whatever. But I think it's good that we can like define it and people understand that we still have that feeling like it doesn't Matter. Yeah, and it's valid, it's not. It should be a debate. It's how you feel. Personally, i would say one of the things that I love, love, love, love is watching you. I've been following you for a long time, like literally since loving hip-hop days. I love love, see your transition. I love seeing how you have moved from like one space of life to a totally different like place, and I would love to hear more about that journey. Like what did that look like for you?
Speaker 2:as far as motherhood, or just Yeah, i like life, like life before, like if I saw you in the reality, you know together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, beautiful, what have you? but now it's like we see joking around, dancing and I Didn't love hip-hop.
Speaker 2:I feel like people saw that and I was really quiet. I wasn't. I was not myself on that show at all. A lot was being controlled in the background, mm-hmm, and so I always walked on to that set feeling a bit like okay, like can I say yeah, yeah, and you know, i Feel like now I'm in a healthier just everything and I'm healthy a relationship. I'm not going through postpartum.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I would go through that with my you know my daughter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, having back babies during that time and, yeah, just going through a lot, just like in the relationship that I was in being a mom, not feeling supported. You know, i live in LA but my family's in Chicago, so I was like, by myself doing all this, going through a breakup and they're having to try to figure out my Life then, how I was gonna provide and get back. It was just a lot going on and I feel like now I can, i can fully be myself and fully sit in what God has Prepared me for, because I've gone through that storm and now I've crossed over to the other side, like I can give my kids what I need to give them because my, i myself, have done the healing work. Yes, and yeah, i just like just everything is just in the healthiest spot, so now I can laugh and now I can get to the people you can tell you so?
Speaker 3:light. Yeah, i was gonna ask so, like the process of getting to the other side, because I think there's a lot of people either stuck in Relationships or on the process of leaving a relationship. But with kids, like how do you get the comfort and the freedom to even get to The steps that you need to even heal because it can be scared? You want to stay for the kids or you want to stay because you know this relationship in will I ever find love again? Like maybe this is better than nothing, like I don't know. I just feel like.
Speaker 2:To each is their own. For me, i know that, like I had to kind of just sit in it and then I Realized like, okay, i'm just a very independent person, like I became an at-home mother, and then when I realized, oh god, this relationship is failing, okay, now Let me go back to work. So I went back to work and was like, no, you're gonna, you're gonna do what you need to do for your kids. You know, that was my mindset. But then also, while doing that, i also was doing therapy and trying to feed my soul with, like you know, positivity at that time, because I felt like I was just in such a negative space And just trying to stay busy, just trying to put myself into work and doing self-care things, and although it was really hard, because you just feel so, Yeah, so you have to kind of just force yourself and just be your own cheerleader.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I do have a great support system of friends and you know they kind of were there like helping me through, whether that be, come over and Bring a bottle of wine. You know and have my therapeutic talks with my girlfriends. You know what I mean. You know that's what we did, yeah. So I mean, i don't know. Everybody's journey is kind of different. I don't like to tell people how they should. I don't have the answer to it. I don't even know.
Speaker 1:Some days I look back and like I think that's a good point though because there's so many times where, when we're in it, like we're in it and that storm, it literally feels like we're not getting out, like it feels dark, it feels really intense and it's like how to see on that other side, you don't, it's very blurry, it's very intense, and so I think there comes a moment where you kind of almost like make a decision, but then sometimes it's like gradual, like you said, like it's literally like no, i'm gonna just every day, put one foot in front of the other and I'm gonna gradually see my way out, and I think that can be helpful to someone. If they do feel that way. They're like, okay, i don't see the other side. Yeah, just put one foot in front of the other.
Speaker 2:So I had my April April wines and We named it after my daughter, which was my daughter's name. Is I may la vie? So we called it beautiful life, because my daughter's name means beautiful, and at that time I was going through postpartum. At the time I just had my daughter, but I was giving back doing my wine events. I was like, well, i could sell this product right, but like I wanted to help other women who are feeling the way that I was. So I remembered that moment in time That helped me, whether or not, like for so many women that I was doing this for. They were like, oh my god, you don't want to cry. We prayed, we did all that, but it was. They don't realize that they were kind of saving me too. So that was another part of my healing journey that like really put me into a position to like just feel better You know what I mean and feel not alone, because it was so many other women who were in my shoes and worse.
Speaker 1:So I was like well, who am I? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that does help when you see other women and you're like, okay, wait, it's not just me Like this, or it could be this like if she's.
Speaker 3:But you brought up postpartum a couple of times, and postpartum looks different for everybody too. Like I, have postpartum anxiety, something I didn't even know existed till I had it like what did postpartum look like for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, honestly. So I didn't know that.
Speaker 3:I had postpartum either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember I woke up one morning and I just like sat on the edge of the bed and I was just like And then I just tears were coming down my face and I was like what is happening? This is not right, because I had no clue as to what I was crying. I just got up.
Speaker 1:I just woke up.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know what I'm sad, am I happy? I felt nothing. I felt like a bit numb. So I remember reaching out to my midwife and just being like hey, so I woke up today and I'm just like crying. I don't know why I'm crying, i don't know what I'm feeling. And she was like, oh okay, she started asking me all these questions And then she was like, yeah, i'm going to come by and see you today. And then I remember she came by and then we got deeper into it. She was like, yeah, i feel like you're in postpartum And I guess, like you do feel numb, you do feel moments of that. You feel moments of, like, sadness, moments of depression. Then you have these high moments and it goes back low. So, yeah, it didn't for me. How I got out of that, i didn't realize because my mom and me were kind of in a bit of a tumultuous relationship, that I didn't realize that. I remember that.
Speaker 2:And my mom shouted to my mother, the greatest woman ever, my best friend. We are very, very, very close. I love that. But, yeah, i didn't know that I needed to have a conversation with her about like her and being my mom, because, you know, i was raised with my grandma, so it was a lot that I needed to know. And when we sat down and talked, it took my postpartum away, which is crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow, it's not crazy, it's just you addressing it.
Speaker 2:It's like that trauma Like the real trauma and stuff that you know you go through. That's crazy?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because motherhood is it like literally, like triggers certain things, because it's a mirror, because you're literally, you have to think about so many things you didn't have to consider, right, yes, ever.
Speaker 2:And I was scared to be a mom to a girl. I thought that I was having a boy and I tested for that, and so I was like, oh, you got the wrong girl because I had my kids so back to back like you.
Speaker 1:Oh, he still had them.
Speaker 2:He still had the testosterone. I was like, no, but my daughter. thank you, laura, for giving me my, because she is.
Speaker 3:I thought I wanted a boy and I had a girl and I was. I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2:You don't know that you need them until you have them and you're like huh, okay, thank you, laura, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So now that you've gotten into that, you know we've talked about the self work and really like getting through that moment. At some point you're like I'm ready to start dating again. How did that go? Like, what was the process? Did you have a process? Did you have non-negotiable Like, how did you get?
Speaker 3:into the real thing, think it was a healthy dating phase of your life.
Speaker 2:I'm very open. I kind of am like. I knew after that breakup with the father and my kids that I was like I need some time. I knew I needed time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i could have my fun.
Speaker 2:Whatever I knew, i was very open with people. If I have a don't, like me, don't like me, don't like me, right.
Speaker 3:And no one believed you because you were probably the good. No one believed the girl when she said that, yeah, i was like I want to I'm good. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't like me Yeah, but for me I've always been open.
Speaker 2:So like, whatever I feel like comes my way because I'm a feeler, yeah, so whatever comes on, i'm like, okay, i'm willing to try it out you know what I mean, but this wasn't until about a couple years ago and then meeting the person that I'm with now today, my god, like we met. we did a podcast recently, but we met on Instagram. He reached out to me and I was like And he's not a Instagram person, but he just thought I was funny and I just man like yeah, well, he didn't even he would.
Speaker 2:He will tell you like I never even thought that you would even give me the time of day, type of Things. So he just wrote you're funny and I was like you know funny like. You're funny you know, but that's how it kind of kicked off. And then we we met months later After we had been communicating and we just hung out and it's been inseparable from from there, but Like he's just ready to transition and just be in a different space.
Speaker 3:He was on that show for five years, yeah but both of you, because I think people are, and maybe it's because he's more on social media, but it's like both of you just seem so light and happy and I think opposite. Yeah, yeah, i'm about you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he feeds into the things that I need in my life and I'm giving him those things that have been missing too. So it's we're just really we just work well together.
Speaker 1:I think too, like some what I hear, sometimes single mothers. They ask questions like How did you know you were ready to date? or how did you know This was the guy to actually like start, you know, pursuing or bringing around your kids, like I know, i know, okay, so I had to go back. Yes, forgetting girl.
Speaker 2:I'm the rest of mommy brain, yeah, so when we met the first, he was intentional. He was intentional with me and so that's how I knew I was like I like him because he was like what's your five-year plan, so where do you see yourself going? We're you know He was asking things that were going to put him into a position to be like I either want to be with her or not. It was not any kind of basic questions.
Speaker 3:I was like yes, not just your Like yeah what are your goals?
Speaker 2:Where do you see yourself? And so that to me was like I've never had a man do that. Yeah, no, I feel that yeah, and then after that, like meeting my kids later on, he Was so good with them and being like let me help you, let me take a load off your back, let me do homework with them, let me.
Speaker 2:So it's like I. I never had that with a partner before. It was always me giving, giving, giving for the first time now in my relationship. Why I'm saying it's so healthy is because I'm not just giving where you know, yeah, he's, he's helping me to like we both. It's a given freakin take. Yes, you know, and so, yeah, it just takes a load off my shoulders completely.
Speaker 3:Yeah, public part Yeah everybody else's opinions Um.
Speaker 1:Was that even a conversation? No, I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't think we can't, cuz he was the one that was like let's do a tick tock.
Speaker 1:Are you, are you sure? Because we know, no, we hadn't even put out that we were even dating Yeah, so people just assumed obviously we were, because we put tick tocks and then we saw the love that we were getting from it, how we was making people happy.
Speaker 2:We just kept doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it wasn't like yet.
Speaker 2:Yet We were boyfriend and girlfriend. We were really dating. We were still yeah, i mean, we were oh wow, i always say, men they be knowing.
Speaker 2:Oh no, yeah, but yeah, so I don't know. And then we never really I mean, that was all we were kind of giving to everybody was just videos Mm-hmm, wasn't until we recently just did a podcast recent where we kind of talked about, hey, how we met in our relationship. We've never talked about it. It's just been kind of like we liked keeping that to ourselves. Yeah, i mean keeping a form of privacy, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Actually pretty much the world did basically.
Speaker 2:Okay, i guess are we boyfriend and girlfriend Pressures, with the pressure, yes, okay.
Speaker 1:I love that. What would you say to a mom who is in that, in that space right now, who really does want to get out there, they want to date. Maybe there's even somebody that they're like entertaining, but they're like scared. Because I do think we all have that moment of being scared and we're like, okay, can I do this, do I want to do this? We're also scared of being hurt again, yeah, and we don't want to bring our children through that. So is like any advice you would have for that for me, i always tell my girlfriend like you'll never know, so we're gonna just sit and fear.
Speaker 2:I mean, we'll never know. It doesn't matter who you me are. If you go on a date you have to have, you have to just take that risk. Yeah, i mean, and yeah, it hurts when you go through terrible breakups, but at the end of the day, sometimes if you don't give yourself that opportunity, you're selling your own self short. Yeah, you know what I mean, because you could really be finding someone who really is good for you. So I never. I'm like, yeah, i don't care what happened here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're not gonna hinder me from trying and if you hurt me too.
Speaker 2:That's not all me, that's all you. Yeah, i always try to walk in with that mind from you've lost the best thing You've ever had. Let's keep on pushing here. You know what I mean, but I'm never gonna be like I always tell moms go for it. You know what I mean. Just Don't move in fear like fear. I never gonna get you anywhere like.
Speaker 1:I sitting in fear. Yeah, I love.
Speaker 3:Because you're missing out. How do you handle that with the children, though? Like you just talk to them?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they're gonna meet my kids until I'm absolutely sure. Yeah, you know I mean, and I don't play around with that like and I'll ask my kids I'm very local with them, or so I'll be like hey, like he did that, take it with his son, i did that with my kids. Hey, dating someone when let me know when you're ready to meet. So, we did that. It took a year.
Speaker 1:I love that. You know what I mean. I mean even giving them the like you let me know when you're ready Exactly.
Speaker 3:You're not stopping, you're like, you're still dating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, i don't.
Speaker 3:Exactly around you, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then it felt good to be like having my kids say well, hey, mommy, i'm ready, i want to meet this guy.
Speaker 3:That's so cute, yeah, and they love.
Speaker 1:That's great. Yeah, what would you say to your younger self? You?
Speaker 2:are the mom, like, you are wonderful and you are everything and more. And, yeah, maybe it took you a little longer to realize that over the course of some years, but like where I'm sitting now, oh my god, like I've always known, but sometimes life can really get ahold of you, yeah, and I just feel like, no, i'm amazing, i'm an awesome human being and I mean well, and Yeah, like, continue to just be you and make the mistakes and don't be hard on yourself and live this life because, literally like we don't know, we're all here, but yeah right
Speaker 2:and don't let nobody make you feel bad for How you choose to move in life. Life is ever changing and ever growing. So I would just say you know, continue to be you and continue to sit in who you are and love it. And you're most proud of right now just me, overcoming things and being the best mom to my, my children, and Seeing where they are now. You know what I mean. Like you can tell what kind of parent you really are when you, when you look at your children and for me my kids are So well behaved, so loving I mean I have the most nope coming here and want to hug everybody. You know what I mean. Like I have lovable babies, yeah, and to me that goes a long way and I feel like even when I was going through what I was going through, to be able To look at my kids and be like, oh my god, cuz there was some days I go off, yeah so to be like wow, like, even after that.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm y'all still are these. Yeah, it's, i feel good, yeah, i feel proud and I Apologize.
Speaker 3:My daughter will be like it's okay, and I always tell her don't say it's okay, because it's not okay.
Speaker 2:You can forgive me. Yeah, okay buddy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah but you have your mom, is you're tired?
Speaker 3:No, i'm like what if they start dating a guy that, like, yells at them and apologizes and yells at them? Yeah, About explaining yeah, they know, i think they know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm like sometimes you know mommy's having a rough day.
Speaker 3:I didn't a lot of explaining what I grew up, i think that's why that too, Yeah.
Speaker 1:Does you need that? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I think it'd be nice to be walking all over my back and then come back.
Speaker 2:Oh, and then you can do it okay.
Speaker 3:It's okay, i know what trauma you're going through, so it's okay that you did this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's not do you feel like sometimes you put that on like. Because you feel that way about your own Like, childhood and personality, you put that on your kids sometimes.
Speaker 3:My goal is for my kids not to be better than me Not me, not, not me, but like to be better than me like all the lessons that I didn't get taught because of how my parents were growing up. Like I didn't really get a lot of like information. We didn't have like a familial Friendship. Yeah, I didn't really get like talk to a lot of things, so most things I figured out myself Eating all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:So it's like I talked to my kids about everything. My daughter asked how babies were made and I told her exactly. I just want her to know she can talk to me about anything.
Speaker 2:There's never gonna be a thing where I can't talk to her. I'm gonna be judged, or you know, this is too weird. So, yeah, you have to have that open dialogue, you know? yeah, i'm gonna figure it out anyway, and then you're gonna learn it from so shoot. Mommy lied to me, she lied to me because she was trying to give Nick names.
Speaker 1:Cute little things.
Speaker 3:Let's just tell someone and I don't like. My friends told me all Yeah, all the wrong things.
Speaker 1:All your friends in the in school? Yes, oh, my goodness. Well, is there anything you want to leave our guests with our audience? Yeah, who are watching. Do you want to like leave them with anything, or you?
Speaker 2:have any advice? Yeah, just live your life to the fullest and Be happy and be around people that only are gonna bring that into your life. Don't feel the pressure of having to please people and be okay with saying no, yes, i was gonna please it. Yeah, being okay with saying no. And to all the moms out there, you're doing a great job and it is difficult and it is very hard, but you will get through it and and I love you and I commend you.
Speaker 2:You have any projects coming out this summer, are you working?
Speaker 3:on anything.
Speaker 2:Um, so I do have a project coming out. I believe like around November I was telling you guys this before me and Tay ended up shooting Something together In Atlanta so go watch it when it comes out, please be streaming on, i believe, peacock. And then Yeah, and there are other things in the work me writing a book, and but I'm Figuring that out now. Yeah, i'm figuring that out. I don't want to say too much. Anyway, yes, but I'm constantly working and Acting and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I love the acting thing that you're like really, really getting it, because I feel like you're, so.
Speaker 2:Your Personality is like for it and I just want to say I got into acting before Tay, yeah, and it's nice to have a partner who helps me Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah and yeah, it's difficult, but I don't know you went to school for.
Speaker 2:Radiology, radiation science. Okay, so you started there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know you gave advice like self-love what, but are you?
Speaker 2:ever like just done.
Speaker 3:Where you are right now Like stunned.
Speaker 2:This is the thing. I have an Asian mother, okay, they're very strict, and so it was like you can't be better than me. You got to do more than me and I get that and I love my mom for that. But I was like girl, so I have this. I'm very nerdy on one side within. The other side is very creative. So I was like, okay, well, i wanted to be a doctor to deliver babies. I was like this is too many years.
Speaker 2:I need to this thing I was like let me go into radiation science. I could do sonograms, whatever Did. that worked at Northwestern for two years and was like bye.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I literally left. Yeah, and move to California was like I have to give myself a shot now to do what I want to do, even though I walk. I literally came. I was like maybe $1,500 in my pocket. I was in a girl group at the time and then we, they didn't work and then I just progressed forward. A girl group.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cuz I sing.
Speaker 2:We were so silent, like Universal Republic at the time, and we didn't, we just couldn't get along, so that ended up happening. And then I was like uh, yeah, but yeah, i am to answer question, very shocked at where I'm at, but I'm also. I knew I was gonna be here. I knew I was supposed to be in the entertainment business doing something creative.
Speaker 1:That's a key too, i think sometimes we always do things, whether it be because of someone else. Well it's always because of someone else, And that's either because of our parents because of our children or whoever else.
Speaker 3:Sorry, how many children at MIT?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we always do something because of them And then we kind of forget, or we can easily forget about us and what we want to do, And I love that you just said you know what? Nah, Like, i'm good at this because sometimes that could be easily Like we can even psych ourselves out, like, oh, i'm really good at this and this is going so well for me, i'm making all this money, like, whatever the case may be, and then we completely forget about that other part of ourselves.
Speaker 2:And I love that. you too. Yeah, that's insane. I love doing what I do. I do love it. I go back and do it every now and again because my midwife happens. Yeah, she has a birthing center, So sometimes I'll do ultrasounds there But the other side of me was just kind of like you know you have that feeling where it's like, I don't feel Something's missing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like I'm doing what I know I'm supposed to be doing, or what I know I'm capable of doing. It was that fight inside of me that was like mm-mm, I can't ignore this I am. You know what I mean, so I, have one more. Ok, only because I know it's going to be in the comments, so you can say no comment if you want, you're wearing on your yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, they're going to ask, especially by the time this comes out, people are going to ask When is this coming out? Summer?
Speaker 2:Oh, summer, you know, it's just a, it's just.
Speaker 1:Yes, I want your prize.
Speaker 2:Is that what it's?
Speaker 1:giving OK cool.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of love, a lot of love, i love that OK, this is good.
Speaker 1:I really am so grateful that you were here. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you for joining us, of course, thank you At our house for the week. It's so cute.
Speaker 1:I'm so proud of you. It's so cute. We are excited that you were able to come and just chat with us. I hope that you guys were really seeing that like this is possible, and I think that's the thing that I always, and Blair too, we really want people to see that, hey, it is something on the other side of what you feel like you're going through And I know single moms Like I know there were way more days than not That I felt like, yep, this is it, this is the end, this is what I have. Like, this is going to be me and these kids. Yes, you're going to be me and these kids, but there's more It is.
Speaker 1:So I am so grateful for you.
Speaker 2:Thank you guys. Thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it.
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