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Time Out: The Metaverse, Friendship, Fear and Finding Our Way
In this week's episode, we're swapping roles - becoming both the interviewer and interviewee! In this episode we are reflecting on:
- Our shared fears
- The weight of societal expectations and the pressure to be the best
- The influence of technology and the never-ending quest for knowledge
- The origins of our names and the dreams we had as children
- The infinite possibilities of the Metaverse and the different lives we could have led
- The impact our childhood has had on our personalities and our faith
- Recognizing when it's time to call it quits, and
- The importance of self-acceptance.
Through out conversations we have realized that after a year of knowing each other there is still so much more to learn! If you need a laugh, then this is definitely the episode you need to listen to today!
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Speaker 2:I think you're supposed to do grains. I think killer Mike is. That's why I switched to that.
Speaker 1:I love Dave's killer bread. That's what I'm doing I'm killing Mike.
Speaker 2:Killer Mike Right, it's like who's killer?
Speaker 1:Mike. Killer Mike, you didn't even come out with some bread. I'm like Dave's killer bread has a competitive. Yeah, I know that's what I'm doing, killer Mike. Well, we're back, guys. We're back for another time out. Take a time out with us. This is a moment for us to just like chill, hang out, sit, talk with you and really, as we're doing these, we just want you guys to get to know us better. So what better way to get to know us than us just sitting talking? And actually we're gonna interview each other today, asking some questions or whatever, because we're always interviewing other people and a lot of people to tell their stories. But we want you guys to get to know us as we get to know you, because you guys always have things to say in the comments that we're getting to know our community. So we love that, but we wanna share the love on our side too and do our part.
Speaker 2:So we are gonna interview each other.
Speaker 1:I'm really excited. I know a lot about Blair because I feel like, even though we've known each other for just a year, I just feel like I've known her forever. But then I also realized, because we've just known each other for a year, I don't know everything about you.
Speaker 2:That's how I feel about you. Like when I found out you ice skated and like there's something else random that you said. Like you have a lot of like random stuff.
Speaker 1:I do. That's when I realized I don't know you like that. I'm like how like do you ever have moments where and it might be just me, because I like watch too much of me, but I'm like this girl could be like a crazy bird? You know, like on the Lifetime movies where, like they play the long game and then all of a sudden they just flick?
Speaker 2:And then it's like you're gonna kick me off the hike today, like we were just children. And then it's like, hmm, if I kick her off the mountain then I could do like a really sad video on the internet and I could go viral and then like I could bring back my mom's club is like my main thing.
Speaker 2:So like, like we're the main thing, man, you found me out. I did so luckily we had someone else there and you know it was a little busy. So I live today, but you know, oh, no, no. Now if something happens to me, they're going to leave you first.
Speaker 1:I know it's on tape, I'm cutting it out. I'm cutting this part out, but no, seriously, I think it is something to be said where I'm like man, like I do feel like I've known you forever. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But then I'm like I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like there's so much of your life that I still don't know. But I also feel like we were like we're fast friends, so we figured out a lot. We figured out fast. It's kind of like somebody dates and the whole like married at first sight or love is blind or whatever, and they find out so much about each other and then they quickly are engaged, married and all the things, and they live happily ever after.
Speaker 2:That's how I feel like for no one it really takes three months to really decide, yeah, to get to know someone, to really decide Like then everything's like we're ancillary. And it's like nice to find out random things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like little treats along the way. So yeah, I've got to start. Ok, first question. Now I'm not going to lie. I've run down a couple of questions and they're literally like the most random all of it. Nothing really flows. So I'm going to just preface that First one. What's your biggest fear?
Speaker 2:Beauty. Ok, so this is going to sound bad because I'm a Christian, but sometimes, when I think about dying, I see like black, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then I freak myself out because I'm like if I'm dead I won't even see black, yeah, it kind of like blows my mind. And then I think my other fear is when I do get into my Christian bag I'm like, ok, I'm going to go to heaven and technically you're not married or with your family, yeah. And I don't know if it's a fear or if it's being really sad. I'm not going to be reunited with my daughter.
Speaker 1:Your spirits will know each other.
Speaker 2:I thought that and then I didn't see that, but I believe so. I'm so sad.
Speaker 1:I have to believe it. I need to go and do a little deep dive, but it's like you won't know. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to be like oh hey, Blair, we're not going to be together in that I don't know if she won't see me because we won't have skin and she looks me like.
Speaker 1:No, have you seen Lula Coco? Yeah, maybe it's like that. Or like Do you listen to like this? No, but like they knew each other by like their spirits, like that's what I'm hoping.
Speaker 2:They're making a story there, when they're causing like drama in heaven.
Speaker 1:Like man, I feel that no, because I got away from that spirit, no, because you're like brave.
Speaker 2:Well then, how would I remember something if I'm new?
Speaker 1:Wow, I think you go like Well, we're gonna look at it because of the browsers.
Speaker 2:Yeah so those are my fears. Okay, alright, that's the kind of stuff I think about Jesus.
Speaker 1:I don't know what I'm trying not to think about. But I've had panic attacks sometimes and I've been thinking about the whole, like when you die it's black, and then realizing it wouldn't even be black. I feel like my fears die of painful death.
Speaker 2:But then I thought about that. I don't want to die of painful death. I don't want to like know I'm dying. Everybody thinks they want to die in their sleep. Could you imagine not getting your to-do list like that? Oh, I don't care about that, but it's like I like that you just don't wake up. It's like your day is just gone because you're dead.
Speaker 1:But to that point. It's even more of a reason to be like look, I'm not about to stress about this, because I could literally be gone tomorrow, and then what? And they will replace you and figure out Everybody. You're gonna be replaced. Everybody's gonna figure out what to do without you. So, like what are you just about?
Speaker 2:Like I, got one mom, one wife. I'm like stepmom, yeah, Like everybody.
Speaker 1:You can literally be replaced by everybody. You can be replaced by anybody, Like anybody.
Speaker 2:I feel like I just heard that Norma said that on the live. Yeah, I was like in my head, I was like I was like wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like everything, literally Everything, and everybody's replaced you. Yeah, so, unfortunately, but that can't be kind of people you know yeah. That's why I don't stress about it, you know, because I'm like, if I don't wake up tomorrow, what is going to happen? People are gonna say, oh my gosh, you didn't get this done. No, they're gonna figure out how to do without me.
Speaker 2:They're gonna put up a post on Instagram. Oh, she was man. You know man, People who barely knew me, Barely knew me, Like man. She didn't believe this. I know. I know someone who didn't.
Speaker 1:I'm so sad, couldn't just saw her. Just talked to her the other day. Never talked to me, never talked to me, and then they moved on. And it goes five minutes later about their lives.
Speaker 2:Yep, exactly that's it At King's Dominion. Yeah, it's literally like I'm here for boy Pour one out for.
Speaker 1:Show me drink water, yeah, oh that's it, but that doesn't sound like no, but okay, moving on, what is your most embarrassing moment?
Speaker 2:Oh, so the one I always pick, oh, my gosh. So in college I went to like one of those pleasure parties or what have you, and I think I won like a product. You never been to one where you get like. It's like a sex toy party. Okay, I thought that's what's meant. Oh, not like an orgy, like a toy party, I guess. So it's like I won like a toy party and it was like this pink little. No, no, maybe it was a good, I don't know if it vibrated or not, okay, and I put it like under my bed.
Speaker 1:I didn't know what to do. I was like, hey, maybe one day I'll use it, maybe I don't.
Speaker 2:Like you know I'm not going to throw it away, Right, and so I forgot it was there. So I moved out. I lived in these dorms where we had to bring our own furniture. So I'm moving out the dorm, it's my mom and the movers, and so we're putting stuff in the car. Putting stuff in the car Like everybody's taking their trips, yeah, and I get to my room is literally sitting on the floor. I'm in the middle of the floor, just there, and I'm the only one in the room. So I like scoop it up real quick and like throw it away somewhere.
Speaker 1:But I was like. I was like I don't know my mom. So this is like yeah, like anybody can like walk in and be like yeah, I'm like who's this here?
Speaker 2:I'm like who's this here Like and did they think it was like I'm just gonna leave this here and let her deal with it? Yeah, and then the other one is I thought I was sending a picture of like my butt to like my boyfriend in college. Yeah, his name was Jonathan, my mom's name is Jeanette and I sent it to my mom. I sent a follow up email. Don't open this because there's no like Un-send in 2000. Oh, you were sending. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was an email. This was like this was like 2003. Yeah, oh, you did look at that yeah.
Speaker 2:And when you say don't read, of course they open it. Yeah, she replied something like Keep smart. What's your favorite past time?
Speaker 1:What's the past?
Speaker 2:time, like the thing I did in the past, or favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like what do you?
Speaker 2:what's your favorite thing to do? To pass, oh it sounds like what you do in the past. I'm, you know, I what? Yeah, I like to read and I like to watch TV, like if I did that, and I like to do it in bed, fun fact.
Speaker 1:Blair reads like 12 books a day. One book at least a day. One book a day is nuts.
Speaker 2:If it's good, sometimes I'll stretch it out I just don't know.
Speaker 1:But.
Speaker 2:I think, what also helped me. Well, I'm a speed reader, but then I like, over the last year or two, I started listening to audio books too. So now, when I cook or if I'm driving and I want to hear something, I'll like listen to the voices though that's probably no because they have different. Actually, it enhances the book, it makes it so much better. Oh, really, yeah, because they're doing it either like in voices that sound like the characters, or it's just like a soothing voice oh so the voice changes yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's not like me reading them, like I mean, I've heard one before.
Speaker 1:I got a, she was like yeah, and the dog chased the cat. Oh, wait, wait.
Speaker 2:Maybe the issue was the boy.
Speaker 1:That's like I do not want to listen to this for more than five minutes, but okay, yeah, cool, good to know, let's see. What advice would you give someone who is still trying to bond with their child after the episode? Oh man, yeah, because fun fact. Blair has talked about this on the show, but she said that like when she first had her kid she was like cool, you just put this big old baby on my chest and that's actually it's disgusting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Back on TV, they make it like this moment, like I was like that. I was like oh, oh it wasn't like that. It was just like, man, I got to take care of this thing. It's like so. It was like just weird. I'm like this came out of my body.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm like okay, so I see it, and then no one would look like an alien like she, like she was not a cute, like she was not a cute baby at all. So I'm like it's like just this thing on my baby, my, my like body. So yeah, I didn't connect. Yeah, I didn't mind that, it was just I don't know. I expected to feel something and I didn't feel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like how did you like get past?
Speaker 2:that time. That's literally it. I didn't try to do anything extra. I didn't try to make myself feel anything that I was supposed to feel. I just told people what I didn't feel instead of trying to pretend. So I think being honest about it helped a lot, even though I'm pretty sure my in-laws and Norman thought I was like going to kill the baby because because I had postpartum you know, people don't know what they do.
Speaker 1:They don't know what to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what you associate with that, or like my only association with like postpartum depression, because I didn't know about anxiety was people killing their kids? Yeah, that's true. That's how it's all presented in the news. And honestly, again, I did not have those feelings. But now that I understand postpartum depression and anxiety.
Speaker 1:I actually understand how women get there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not this, or short yeah, or like crazy like thing. To me, like I, it's sad that it happens, it's terrible that it happens, but I 100% can understand how women get there especially when they've had multiple kids back to back. Like I get it, um, but yeah, I think they thought that, like my, since I had no connection, I could possibly hurt. I'm like I don't want to hurt baby, I don't even need to be around baby, I just felt like I couldn't.
Speaker 1:She said I don't even need to be around, baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like I felt like I couldn't put her down. I felt like it just was like a lot of it's, when I realized I was selfish.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't want. This is no longer a choice.
Speaker 2:I have to do this and it was just a lot. So I don't know. I don't know if there's any advice. I think I guess the advice is if I'm the first person to tell you you're feeling this way, is you're not the only person, I think that's what brings me out is I've never heard anybody that had the experience that I did.
Speaker 2:So I felt like something was very wrong with me and that it was never going to happen. I can't say when it exactly happened, but I feel like my daughter was definitely walking. I feel like she was talking. It's like when she got a personality, I think that's You're like.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're kind of cool. Yeah, I'm like I can connect with this.
Speaker 2:And I've also realized I'm just not a baby person Like. I'm not the one like, oh, this is their hungry cry and this is their. You know, I pooped cry, like how you guys figure all that stuff out. I have no idea. I'm like I don't know what this child needs and then, even if I do all the things, it's like still an issue.
Speaker 2:It's just I'd rather hear a toddler have a tantrum than have to deal with a crying baby. I know it's due with the toddler. Yeah, like they can communicate even if it's broken. Yeah, like English, I can figure it out. You definitely can.
Speaker 1:I mean even just seeing. I've seen you interact with your kids, but I've also seen you interact with my kids.
Speaker 2:You know, of course, when they're not your own, you're like I'm cool and I'm like wow player.
Speaker 1:Look at her yeah, like they're just cuddling on the couch. Oh, I love hugs and kisses and all that. She's the most cuddly kid. They are very cuddly, yeah, very. They are physical touch all day long, like they want to be. They're like nice to meet you, yes, nice to meet you. I love you so much. I'm going to just female crow for the rest of the time that you're here. Yes, that is it. Um, last one is what do you hope your kids learn or like glean from you the most? Is it glean or glean, glean, glean. That's it Right.
Speaker 2:Yes, I just want them to like, live, like, knowing how to figure stuff out. I don't want them to have excuses of why they can't do things, of why they can't get things done. Um, I think it's good to have support and help from people, but I've never been a person like oh man, I've got to wait for someone to figure this out Like.
Speaker 1:I'm going to figure it out if I have to If I want to go see a movie. I'm going to go to the movie and go see it Like I want to go to this restaurant.
Speaker 2:I'm going to like go do it, and I never used like not knowing how to do something or someone not being available. That's a reason not to do something Like I'm not doing it because I literally don't want to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that you know, and that is okay.
Speaker 2:It's like what we were saying the other day. I think, when you're pretending- like you want to do something. Yeah, like acting helpless, like that's like just say you, just say you don't want to do it. Just say you don't want to do it. And that's probably yeah, yeah, there's, there's, there's just too much Google and YouTube and AI and just like common sense. So it's like my girl loves AI. Now I love AI.
Speaker 1:Sys system.
Speaker 2:It helps everything. It's like Google on crack. Yeah, it is, but yeah, I say like my kids don't need to be valid Victor valedictorium.
Speaker 1:Valedictorium.
Speaker 2:Valedict, valedictorian. It is not another V Valedictorian, no, valedictorian, definitely not a.
Speaker 1:V Valed.
Speaker 2:Valedictorian, valedictorian. Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to like make the dick so sticky but but it's definitely not validictorian. You're like victorious.
Speaker 1:Victorious Valedictorian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they don't have to be Okay.
Speaker 1:Yes that does sound good.
Speaker 2:They don't have to be that, like I don't care about that. I need you to know how to think.
Speaker 1:I need you to be smart Like, oh my gosh, she the amount of times I've heard you tell your kids that, yes, think noble things. Yes, I'm like think.
Speaker 2:I'm like you having a whole tantrum. What's this solving, like? Think about if you even want to have a tantrum first and then, if you want to have your tantrum, habit, but like yeah, think about this. Like think about how to solve your problem. When she'll come up to me she's like I can't have ice cream because it's 8 30. I'm like I guess you can't. I was like now you'll never know.
Speaker 1:What's with ice? Of course that's it, that's the only question that's good. I hope you guys can feel like you know Blair a little bit more, because I feel like that was good.
Speaker 2:I have learned a couple little something About black holes, about black holes, for sure.
Speaker 1:And dildos. Black holes and dildos. That's the title. Black hole no, you can't do that Not the hole before. Honestly not the hole before. Actually the hole though. Actually no, because you go.
Speaker 2:That Is it a good band from. I won't be able to monetize this one. They're going to kick us out. So how'd you get your name, Morgan? How'd I get?
Speaker 1:my name. Yeah, my favorite question in the world How'd I get my name? My mom named me after Morgan Fairchild. That's a free band. No, morgan Fairchild. How'd I get my name Gone with the wind right? Is that what she's from? Let?
Speaker 2:me look around and I can tell you, but I feel like I was named after Blair from Back to Life.
Speaker 1:So you were named after a blonde lady too.
Speaker 2:Yep, yes, I don't know if she's gone with the wind, but I feel like she is a soap lover.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2:So your mom liked her soap lovers. Okay, okay, how'd your sister get hurting?
Speaker 1:Oh, I have no clue.
Speaker 2:You don't care.
Speaker 1:No, that's so weird. No, because also Alexis is so basic. So, but that's why I want to know, like, why did you say?
Speaker 2:Alexis, everyone's Is one of your names. Marie, is her middle name Marie or Nicole? Nicole, that's what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying she was the most Like during that time. Everyone's name was either Alexis or Nicole.
Speaker 2:So you're not Black in your watching this 95% of Black women. At a certain time, nicole or Marie, nicole, marie.
Speaker 1:Renee, renee, renee, nicole, marie Renee was like and Keisha had to go in a chokehold. The first name.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Keisha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so as I'm saying Alexis around, Because I feel like Alexis was also Like it sounds classy for that timeframe you know where she probably got it.
Speaker 2:Oh, like From Dynasty. Yeah, he never watched Dynasty. That was like rich moms, like really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Not gonna have to ask.
Speaker 1:I want to know she's like. It matters to me. I don't care if you don't care, yeah, I don't know so what is another you doing in the multiverse? Wow.
Speaker 2:What a question. You ever think about that, like if you didn't decide this, if you did this, like there's like 100 different views doing all the choose your own adventure type things. No, I watched the.
Speaker 1:Flash. You don't watch the Flash, no, and I'm multiverse, so kind of like Barbie, like when I was Barbie, and she has like a bunch of different jobs.
Speaker 2:No, there's like Earth 2. What's Earth 2 version of Morgan doing?
Speaker 1:Oh, so like I'm gone.
Speaker 2:Like you're incarnated. No, you're here. There's another Earth and you're on that Earth Like there's another Morgan on Earth 2.
Speaker 1:There's another Morgan on Earth. 4.
Speaker 2:There's another Morgan on Earth. 5. You guys are all simultaneously living life, and one of you finished college.
Speaker 1:One of you she's a lawyer, didn't have the baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah she's a lawyer. She's a lawyer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I always when I was a kid, I wanted. I just knew I was going to be a lawyer. I was going to drive Jack and I was just going to go. Why would you go, I don't know. I just thought they were cool, and I think my grandfather had one too. So then that like really sealed the deal for me. But I just thought, jack, a lawyer, I'm going to be that girl, kind of like a clear obstacle Pretty much. And then I realized I'm like, nah, because then I, yeah, I just decided no, but I think I'll be a great lawyer. I can literally argue anyone out. I'm usually right, because I also, like I can see right through people. You can, you can.
Speaker 1:You cannot tell me anything I probably already don't know. You should go and look at you like this yeah, like you can tell. You can say it all day and I'm going to be like okay, or I'll just be like okay, but I already know.
Speaker 2:Like I know, yeah, I'll let you play.
Speaker 1:Like thank you for playing me Typically, if I ask you a question, I already know the answer. That's another thing. If it's something deep, I think that's the thing Like if it's not like normal regular, like obvious, like I truly don't know if you're hungry or not, but if it's something like serious and I'm asking you even at how are you? I typically already know how you are. I know if you're having a good or bad day but I just want you to be able to like say it yeah.
Speaker 2:Well then you got to like do the next thing. I started telling people I'm not okay, a lot Like I'll be like I'm okay, or I'll say I'm okay, and then you'll be like, yeah, yeah, I'm like I'm okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I started doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like everybody says they're good and they're not yeah, because you're supposed to say you're good, yeah?
Speaker 1:It's easy, it's like hello yeah.
Speaker 2:Just hello, goodbye. Yeah, that's just part of that. What question annoys you the most?
Speaker 1:What do you do? I hate that question. I hate that question, I think one. I hate it because there's so much pressure to be or do something and so my thing is like I don't care if I have the best job in the world. Like why does that have to be the first question? Why does that have to define me Like that does? Because I could. I could also have the best job in the world and be the worst person. That's true.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. So why like, why?
Speaker 1:is that the first question that makes you decide whether you want to pretty much like continue this conversation or not? It shouldn't like be the thing, and I I feel like it's. It's kind of like the house of the weather. Yeah, that's what people like go to yes. But I'm like it doesn't have to be that it could be anything else, but that means you're like a good conversationalist Like a lot of people just aren't, and that's fine.
Speaker 1:I'm like also you don't know where people are in life, so it didn't make it awkward, like say, if I really am between jobs.
Speaker 2:You should make it weird. I just start talking about my employee. I got fired this morning. Like it's really weird, that's what I say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like, truly, like, I'm like I just feel like there should be something else. You ask, and not to mention, it's kind of like what's the word? Very intrusive, like to ask a stranger to me, because I'm like I just met you two seconds ago.
Speaker 2:You know why I'm not getting your bills? Are you trying to make sure I'm going to like pass the credit check?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because ultimately, it's almost like how successful are you and really how successful are you? Means?
Speaker 2:how much money do you make?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really all it means because that's what everybody cares about. And I think, when you put it to that perspective because nobody really thinks like that is just a normal thing to ask. But you're literally asking me is kind of how people say when are?
Speaker 2:you going to have? Another baby You're asking me when am I going to have?
Speaker 1:sex again.
Speaker 2:Like it's weird, that's strange yeah.
Speaker 1:So that builds actually out. Those two questions are very annoying. I saw one in like the DC club days.
Speaker 2:like you meet someone, like your dance, they're going to do it.
Speaker 1:What's your?
Speaker 2:name Blair. What do you do?
Speaker 1:We're like, we're like, we're like what is happening right now, and then I'm like 20, like what?
Speaker 2:what do you expect, unless you're like an old man and stuff Like what job do you expect me?
Speaker 1:to have Not only that, but it's like when I tell you what I did say, I say you know, I um, I just answer phones. What's yours, follow it right, do you?
Speaker 2:it's like, do they want you to?
Speaker 1:ask what they do.
Speaker 2:Worker maybe they want you to ask what they do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe I Mean that always doesn't work because no one's asking if they don't, all right, you know, if they don't want to share, yeah, to get the question back. Yeah, that's a good point. I'm never about to ask you if I don't want to tell you that, yeah. Yeah, I don't usually ask back. They probably wait, but you notice, even if you don't ask back.
Speaker 2:sometimes They'll all right, I still offer you. Yeah well, I work up, but you know, but I'm like cool.
Speaker 1:No, I'm nothing else for you, that's great. So why do you think you are the way you are? Oh, definitely my childhood, 100%. I'm the oldest, and the oldest just always gets the most responsibility. The oldest takes the fall for everything. The oldest is the guinea pig, essentially Because your parents are trying to figure it out. They're trying to figure themselves out all the things, and so, with that being said, I feel like I really really Was forced to figure it out as well, because a lot like would happen and I feel like, okay, this is where I'm at, this is, and I either have to like run with it or I think I also never wanted to be. That's something.
Speaker 1:I decided when I was like super young, was I never wanted to be the one always Blaming their issues on their childhood or blaming their issues on like one scenario that happened or whatever.
Speaker 1:So I'm like the best way to do that is learn from this, see what you don't want to be or don't want to happen in your life and, like Immediately, figure out ways that you don't fall in this category or basically think you figure it out, yeah, I can figure it out and I, I, I feel like I did that and some stuff, of course, like I, I'm still figuring out, like I'm not gonna say, like I just at 12 years old, I decided that I'm gonna be this person and I've always, from that day forward, I was that no, like I had an idea in mind that what I wanted to be, and I always was able to go back to that Kind of like your wife, you know, you know, I mean.
Speaker 1:So I feel like that's where I'm at. And then I Really do appreciate my foundation in the church and like my Christianity, because that is what I'm able to like fall back on every single time and it helps me to Just be a clear thinker. Like to your point, just think, because anytime I do want to like fall in that like weird hole of just mess, I just can't, you know, I just can't. I'm like Not productive.
Speaker 1:It doesn't do any, doesn't do anything and there's just so many things that, like I've seen in my life in such a short period of time, you've seen too much. I really have. I've just seen so much and I just, I, just, I'm like I can either throw myself a pity party or I could like figure out how to step on it and like Use it as a ladder, get your moment.
Speaker 2:Just like, just don't say that yes, you're allowed to stay.
Speaker 1:You're allowed to be there, you just don't have to stay here. Yeah, so like them.
Speaker 2:Okay, my last question, aside from you know having your daughter young and being a single mom. Yeah, wouldn't have you felt most challenged Because he would say that, right, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Um, I Wouldn't, I would have said that. So I mean and also that's the easy answer, because it's like the most obvious, um, but there's them. You know what I will say, that I actually like just Start to, in this season of us, just you know, being and figuring out our lives and being entrepreneurs and building a brand. One of my most challenging seasons, to be totally honest, was the fact that I knew I Wasn't supposed to be in the corporate world. I was good at it, but I never. It was like I was.
Speaker 1:I would always hit like not the roadblocks where it's like this is a test this year, preparation, I was. It was a different type of roadblock. It was like there, you don't belong here. And To think that I was really because I'm, I was Before, I guess two years ago. I knew that I didn't belong there, but I didn't think that there was anything else for me. Yeah, so I'm like you're good at this, you can make a career out of this and you can climb the corporate ladder, this is where this is your life, yeah, so to Constantly like, have that strong feeling of like, no, but you still don't belong here and you're, because you don't belong here, you're always gonna hit a wall and you're always gonna be unfilled, or just feel like you, just You're not wanted here. Like there were so many feelings I would have at my jobs. It was very like. It was very hard, like I would. Sometimes I would like cry on my way to work because I was like this sucks, like this is the end pretty much Because it's light.
Speaker 2:Like once you get in there, it's like yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the next 50 years of your life. Yes, and that's when, like especially when I was with the state and I was the youngest person and I'm seeing all the people that I work with and see your future. Yeah, I'm like this is it for me. I would get in trouble for the most insane thing, like I've definitely gotten written up at every single job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, see, I'm too much of a like ah, I can't do it. And that's what would make it hard for me is because the stuff I would get written up about I was like this is just like. It's almost like God is reminding me.
Speaker 2:Like you need to get out of here. Yeah, no matter what you do, you're gonna mess up. You're gonna mess up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't belong here. Yeah, every single time. So it was very hard, because in my, because it's not your, personality you wanna do great things. Yeah, you wanna be good, even if you don't wanna be there.
Speaker 2:You wanna produce good work.
Speaker 1:Yep, my biggest thing that I've always struggled with, especially since I was young, I mean I wouldn't say struggle I used to struggle with is not being good enough. I always felt like I just wasn't good enough. So to be in that headspace or career, yeah, I'm like man.
Speaker 2:I'm not getting validated by all of that. That's even worse.
Speaker 1:Yep, so that was the hardest thing. That was the hardest thing. Yeah, that sounds hard. I wanna do this again. I know I think we should do this again. If you guys have any questions for us, let us know. Put them down in the comments.
Speaker 2:Answer some of the questions yourself. Answer some of the questions yourself If you have something that you're like, oh, I wanna share mine.
Speaker 1:That was a good question. Tell me what you're doing in the multiverse. Yeah, in the multiverse.
Speaker 2:Cause I was like, am I another Barbie? The way I see it, I'm Barbie Barbie, but think about it.
Speaker 1:In Barbie world there's, like so many Barbies she's a lawyer, she's a doctor, she's a vet.
Speaker 2:I can see it. I mean Barbie's doing house. I did it.
Speaker 1:That flash? I'm Barbie. What Barbie are you? Let us know in the comments below. I'm wedding day Midge. What are you?
Speaker 2:Wedding day Midge.
Speaker 1:What is that you?
Speaker 2:don't know about Midge, like right here. That was my favorite Barbie, oh.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna look her up. We should go see the movie, we should. Yeah, that'll be fine. That comes out soon. This is not sponsored.
Speaker 2:They're not sponsored that's, but they can't. I mean, who knows my mom and my sister? I don't want to part. She gets you know, like Barbie everywhere, let us know, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I am glad that we're able to do this and talk and just like share Cause I think it's also cool that we would do this normally this time of year Exactly?
Speaker 2:These are fun questions, they are. We got some icebreaker ideas for the season.
Speaker 1:Yes, we do. We hope you guys enjoyed it. Please make sure you subscribe, make sure you share. Comment down below. What Barbie you are, we wouldn't know. We want to have some talk to you. We want to see what you're doing, what you think. All right, see you later.
Speaker 2:See you in the group chat. Bye.
