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How to Reconnect with Yourself Ft. Raye Boyce

Morgan Taylor and Blair Gyamfi ft. Raye Boyce Season 4 Episode 4

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Feeling lost in motherhood? Ever wish you could rewind or compare experiences on equal footing? Join us as we discuss these relatable struggles with Raye Boyce (@itsmyrayeraye), beauty and lifestyle influencer who shares her insights on:

  • Navigating the identity shift: How motherhood changes us and the emotions we rarely discuss.
  • Body image and societal pressures: Unpacking unrealistic expectations and embracing your individual journey.
  • Finding balance (or redefining it): Exploring the gender gap in work-life balance and forging your own path.
  • Defeating self-doubt: Tips to conquer "imposter syndrome" and prioritize what truly matters.
  • Setting and Example: How our resilience and growth shape our children's happiness.
  • Finding your tribe: Building genuine friendships during life's transitions.
  • Peace and goal setting: Faith, authenticity, and navigating social media pressure.

This episode is for you if:

  • You're a mom feeling lost or overwhelmed.
  • You need honest conversations about motherhood's challenges.
  • You seek inspiration from other moms' stories.
  • You're ready to connect with a supportive community.

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Candid Conversations About Motherhood

Speaker 1

It's viral , it's my .

Speaker 2

Monday . That's your Monday , then I gotta do my work and I'm like for what Cause , I don't even know cause I'm going to hell . You about to die .

Speaker 1

So what are we even doing this ? For ? Who do we know this for ?

Speaker 3

My phone's dead . At least I'm going back to sleep . What's up , hey mom ? What's up , hey mom ? What's up , hey mom ? What's up , hey mom .

Speaker 1

What's up , welcome to Moms . Actually , I'm Blair and this is Morgan . Get ready for some candid conversations , some relatable moments with our guest Ray Boyce . Yes , if you don't know her now , you do , but you definitely know her Absolutely .

Speaker 3

We are so excited to be back and let's go ahead and get started in the episode with our it's giving motherhood . Now , if you are new to the scene , we're going to go ahead and explain this game . The gold side is yes , or the first answer , and the white side is no , or the second choice . Now , ray , are you ready ? I'm ready . Okay , the first answer is the right answer . Always , always .

Speaker 3

We're going to give our questions and then we're just going to get right into it . Okay , let's do it All right . First one have you ever felt like an outsider amongst other moms ? Okay , Are you in the middle ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , you're in the middle . Why ? Because sometimes I don't know , because I want to say no , I don't , but I'm sure I do , because I always feel really awkward . So I'm like I have to .

Speaker 3

So go ahead and turn to the white side . Do you compare your current body to your pre-baby body ?

Speaker 1

Yes , 100% , I don't . I don't , I do , no , I don't anymore , I still remember , before I got married in my 20s , I really loved my body .

Speaker 3

I was like it looks so good and I was single and I'm like man .

Speaker 1

No one's going to get to see my body while it looks like this . And now it's like nobody gets to see my body while it looks like that because it's gone . I was looking at an old picture the other day . I was like , ow , I look like this .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I was like I like how I look now , but I mean you do look good , I looked good .

Speaker 2

I feel like I look better now .

Speaker 3

Yes , same .

Speaker 2

You have a grown woman , mommy , glow .

Speaker 3

Like it's different . It's like I don't know . Yeah , my husband always says I looked like a child before kids Like you still look like a child but , I understand your body . Like now you look like a woman Same yeah , so I felt like a legal before . Yeah .

Speaker 2

Oh my .

Speaker 1

God , yeah , got it . Okay , would you rather go back in time five years or time travel to the future five years ? Oh , I get to change things . I want to time travel . You want to go forward ? Yeah , oh , I'm going to be old , so , no , I want to go back in time .

Speaker 3

Do we get to come back ? Oh , do you die ? No , like , okay , if I'm traveling forward , do we have to stay there ? Do I have to stay there In those five ?

Speaker 1

years .

Speaker 3

I just get a little glimpse oh that's what I'm going to say there . Oh , I thought it was like a teleport type thing .

Speaker 1

No , because then that wouldn't be fun . That just means you get like everybody's going to put that one , you get to sneak peek , or come back and I love it .

Speaker 2

You can't even just get through a basic question , right ? Okay , I'm going back . You guys are going forward aging yourselves five years I don't want to go back , because then my daughter won't be here .

Speaker 1

You get to have her . Oh Would you .

Speaker 2

Oh man . Oh man , Would I still . No , You're like I'd have .

Speaker 1

Zoe . But Right , geez , Okay . Well , let's get out of there , yeah .

Speaker 3

All right , all right , all right . Do you think it's easier for men to juggle career and family life ? Yes or no ? Absolutely , Am I on every camera Okay . Just make sure yes .

Speaker 1

Okay , there's nothing to say about that ?

Speaker 3

We don't need to say anything about that . That's a question no need to elaborate .

Speaker 1

Are you more likely to leave the party early or stay and let your hair down ? Oh , it depends on the day . I that's a good point . You know , what I'm saying , I like to get to the party really late . I do too Like when I used to go to the club I would go to like right before the let out .

Speaker 3

Right before the let out that's part , that's part .

Speaker 1

Yeah , like at like 2 AM , but then it's super late . Yeah , it is , but I'm a night owl .

Speaker 2

I mean , I was out last night .

Speaker 1

Where are you ? Look at you .

Speaker 2

I don't know how I've been . And you are glum , you are . You got good sleep Right . 2 o'clock . 2 o'clock , I'm like OK .

Speaker 1

LA closes like at like 11 30 PM , like LA stays open late . Yeah , oh , I didn't know that .

Speaker 3

Wow , ok . Well , I guess we're all staying out . We staying out , we staying out . Ok .

Speaker 1

We outside . Ok , would you do it all again , knowing what you know now ? 100% yes , yeah .

Speaker 2

Unfortunately .

Speaker 1

Right , right , I would , because I like who I am . Yeah , exactly the lessons that you learned .

Speaker 3

Like I wouldn't be who I am if I didn't like make some mistakes .

Speaker 1

They're like well , you could still learn it a different way . I'm like I wouldn't risk it . I wouldn't risk it , I don't want to go through all of that again .

Speaker 3

No , no yeah . Let's see Booking a makeup artist for your daughter's prom . Or are you doing her makeup ?

Speaker 1

yourself . Well , mine is definitely gold . You have some decisions to make . I'm doing her makeup .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , yeah , I would do my daughter's yeah .

Speaker 2

Because , I'm cool , it's your bonding moment .

Speaker 1

Yeah , ok , can you let me do her makeup for the stellar ? Really .

Speaker 2

Aw , so I got to .

Speaker 1

That's so sweet , I felt so special . I did that , I did yes , yes , ok , I can't say the last one , so you go . Oh , you want me to do it OK .

Speaker 3

I don't got enough heatless curls or a bust down middle part with a 26 inch Ooh .

Speaker 1

I actually I got to bust down .

Speaker 3

I'll take the bust . I hate middle parts you hate them . No , oh , my god , I'm in your hair line . I can't do it oh .

Speaker 2

It's either side or ponytail .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I've been rocking the side for this , for it I wish I'm jealous .

Speaker 2

No , I feel like your head is nice . No , I have like a little dip , so that's why I've been reading my book .

Speaker 1

Yeah , ok , like a little calligrapher . Yeah , everybody's like close in . No Wait , where is this ? Show me . See I start middle part and then like three days later I end up at like the kind of off center . Yeah . And I go more to the side , and then ponytail .

Speaker 3

Yeah , that's mine . I've been rocking the middle part Because you know , like middle part versus side part is supposed to tell your age a little bit . No , because you know millennials be on the side part .

Speaker 1

I thought side parts came back though . I mean , they just came back like a few months ago Maybe . Yeah , I think Kim wore one in there .

Speaker 3

Oh OK .

Speaker 1

Oh Parts , she decides everything .

Speaker 3

Well , speaking of beauty trends and all the things that you guys don't know who Ray is . Let's brag on her for a bit . She is the OG YouTuber . She is that girl , but she's still really young . Yes , yes , I am , she is that girl and we're just so excited to have you here . Thank you .

Speaker 2

I'm excited to be here . This is fun . What made you say yes ? What made you show up ? Ok , I was telling her earlier that I actually didn't want to do it , but I did . I did in my heart , but I just don't take it personally .

Speaker 1

I don't take it personally .

Speaker 2

With this stuff and I haven't done anything like this in a really long time . So I get super anxious . That's another thing about me . I hide it and I get quiet , but I'm extremely anxious . My mind is all over the place .

Speaker 1

So I was like do I really want to do this ? Is it myself to that stress ?

Speaker 2

But then I was like , let's just do it OK .

Speaker 3

I'm happy I'm here . Yeah , you happy now ? Yeah , ok .

Speaker 1

Good , I'm like we're really , you know we're cool , we're cool , we're cool .

Speaker 3

All right , so I have a

Beauty Guru Single Mother Journey

Speaker 3

question . Ok , being that you are the beauty guru , everybody pretty much always probably talks to you about all of those things . What is a topic that you don't get asked about but you wish you had the opportunity to discuss more openly ?

Speaker 2

That's a good question I feel like more of , because I'm like so private , I don't like nosy people , I don't even know who's with me . That's a lot too , all the questions Right . Yeah , probably like my background and where I'm from .

Speaker 1

Oh , From New York .

Speaker 2

Yeah , no , but more of just like how my family is .

Speaker 1

Like how ?

Speaker 2

because it's crazy when I meet people and they hear my story about my family and how I was raised and like the things that I've gone through and seen , they're just like how are ?

Speaker 1

you standing , so you know what's next .

Speaker 2

It doesn't make sense . I need to . No , seriously , we need to know .

Speaker 1

Yeah , now I need to for you to say it so I can say that doesn't make sense . What's your therapy session ? What's the TLDR ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , it's a lot , it's a lot , it's a lot . Well , if you could say , like for somebody who maybe had the same background or even upbringing , that you did like . What would you say to them ?

Speaker 2

I would say If in that moment , you have a dream or there's something that you want to pursue and you really have , like , the odds stacked against you , you're used to seeing a certain lifestyle , used to seeing people , friends , get murdered . Yeah , you know , things happen into your mom Almost being taken away from your mom because your family calls Child protective services just because you know , my mom's like the black sheep of her family , yeah .

Speaker 2

So I've seen like a lot of crazy things that I thought was normal . And then , like talking to other people , they're like are you okay ? Yeah , you know that's not okay , that's not normal . So I would just say that you never know , whatever dream you have , whatever you want to pursue , like it could happen . I would have never in a million years think I would be here like if God literally showed me I'd be like listen , I know you got , but you lying , that's not gonna happen , but it happened .

Speaker 1

So , yeah , I was gonna ask if you ever experienced some posture syndrome , but clearly all clear , I so how do ? You push through it because you know that's usually what stops .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah like .

Speaker 1

I know you self lies , I know I literally have to lie to myself like sometimes I do a little side .

Speaker 2

No , I'd be like God . I don't really , you know , I don't really talk like this , but I just got to tell myself this , right now I'd be like you , that , you that girl .

Speaker 3

You , even though my head every like , are you sure ?

Speaker 2

But ? I'm like no , I have to tell myself that because then , like today , I wouldn't have showed up . Honestly , I feel like that's the imposter syndrome kicking in , where I just don't feel like I deserve it or belong . Why do they want to talk to ?

Speaker 1

me . Yeah , yeah , no , that's how we feel . We're like .

Speaker 3

Like yes we literally had that conversation yesterday .

Speaker 1

We're like why ? Why do people say yes ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , I agree it's . It's one of those things too . First of all , I applaud you for pushing through , because you don't know who you're helping to like . There's so many people out there . I know , like I told you earlier , I've been following you forever and I think when you see like you have that little girl , or you know that young woman at that point , yeah , who wants to do more , who is Aspiring , and now we're mothers and you know , when you become a mom , your priorities change , your dreams change and all that stuff , and so it's like you have to , like push through . You do , but it's hard .

Speaker 2

It's hard . I don't want to do this yeah and that's why we are here .

Speaker 3

It's like to be able to help other people , because just watching the person to say I made it is like Chefs kiss a big thing I was gonna say how is your daughter changed how you work ?

Speaker 1

because I think about that often With noble , because I get imposter syndrome in and , for example , if someone invited me to something if they give me too much time , I'm gonna talk myself out of it like I need the night before , so I don't like Literally , but it's a lot of times . What convinces me to do things now is what she's gonna see when she's older .

Speaker 2

I want her to be like how does Zoe like Motivate ? I feel like she motivates me , like you said , to continue even during the times when I don't want to , because they're like there's moments where even sometimes I'm like I don't feel like doing the social media stuff , like I'm going to quit , like I just get tired and the imposter syndrome really gets bad and kicks in .

Speaker 2

But then when I look at her and then when she's asking me for all these new toys and stuff and she wants to go on all these adventures so she just helps me , want to become a better me and push myself , when I see her and how happy she is , I'm like I did that . Yeah , that's one thing that , like , no one can take away from me . I can say , like how ? Happy she is . I did that , yeah , so I have to . Whatever I'm doing , I'm doing the right , clearly .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I love that and I think it's important to be able to say that , because I think sometimes we we don't want to like be proud . Yeah , you know what I'm saying , like it's like you know we're cocky or whatever , but no , like brag on yourself . I think what's one of the things that we really try to Celebrate is brag on yourself , like be confident , cuz , who else is gonna do it ? Yeah , sometimes it's just you that has that . You know , that's encouraging yourself and that's what you need .

Speaker 2

It's just you that sees all the things Behind the scenes .

Speaker 1

Yes , so you have to you know , my thing lately has been saying like we are so good at lying to ourselves about like Bad things , like I'm not good enough , I'm not like , why not lie to ourselves about good things ?

Speaker 2

Yeah we're gonna lie to ourselves .

Speaker 3

Which is probably true . You know the girl that girl was being a single motherhood . What have been some of the things that you have learned through this Journey ? Because no one goes into like relationships and has kids thinking that they're gonna be a single mom , yeah , I mean . So what have been the biggest like takeaways ?

Speaker 2

I'd say the biggest takeaway for me Was realizing I really have to know and learn myself before .

Speaker 2

I do anything or get into a relationship with anyone and I'm on that journey now because I was married and with that person for so long but I feel like it's just given me a lot of information that I can pass down to Zoe too , yeah , so that I can kind of protect her as much as I can from you know anything like that happening

Rediscovering Self and Building Friendships

Speaker 2

. But I feel like I just want to take life slow now and enjoy the moments .

Speaker 2

I'm always in a rush , yeah , and I'm always trying to like check everything off of my list so I can feel like I'm accomplished in life , yeah , and I noticed that for me , and I feel like for other people when they do that , it's like you're not really enjoying it and finding your happiness .

Speaker 1

You're just trying to get to a point of the accomplishment , yeah .

Speaker 2

And then it's like , okay , now what ?

Speaker 1

You do that , so you always have to strive for something . Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2

So that's what I feel like has taught me a lot .

Speaker 1

How do you make the decision that you are better off being a single parent than staying in a marriage ? You know how like people are like stay together for the kids or whatever . How do you decide like ? This is it ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , I feel like for me , the whole stay for the kids stuff to me I don't know . I think it's ridiculous because you get to see everything that's happening behind the scenes when you're a child . You're experiencing all that . My promise to myself . I said no matter what , I don't care who you are . If it gets to a point where we are arguing in front of our daughter or if it's anything hostile , anything that's going to affect her or give her any trauma , I was like you're gone , that's what anyone in my life .

Speaker 2

Even if it's bringing me too much stress , because now , when I'm stressed , she's looking at me and she's getting into the age where she's going to be like are you okay ?

Speaker 1

What's going on ? What's wrong ? Why are you crying ?

Speaker 2

Obviously , the world isn't perfect . She's going to see me sometimes feeling down , but I don't ever want her to see it be a situation that I'm in control of , and I can cut out of my life yeah .

Speaker 3

Do you feel like you are in a space where you're like healed ?

Speaker 2

No , I'm not fully healed .

Speaker 3

Okay , I feel like .

Speaker 2

I've moved on . But as far as healing , I think as a whole , since this is the first time me being alone Like I've never been on my own my whole life until now . So I feel kind of like I just started college right now and I'm like there's so many things I've never done . That's why she was out till 233 . I was like , oh okay , this is how I was doing 10 years ago . I never did that , so it's cool . It's like I'm just relearning myself again which is fun .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I'm seeing what .

Speaker 2

I like to do ? What are my hobbies Like ? What are things I want to explore ?

Speaker 3

What I don't like so it's a fun journey . I think that's important to like lean into , because we get so many comments from single moms are like , well , what about you know ? You guys are always saying like , get a break , and all this stuff and they're like well , how am I supposed to get a break if I don't have help ? Or how am I supposed to love myself if I don't have time to even you know ? Think about what I love about myself .

Speaker 1

I'm sick of you guys saying I need self care . I know I need self care . Yeah , I know I have time for yeah , yes , yes .

Speaker 3

So what have been like the ways that you were like okay , I know that without a shadow of doubt , I'm going to get this , because this is what I'm doing for me .

Speaker 2

Um well , I'm on a bowling league , so that is that's so cute .

Speaker 1

Wait , can you get the ball to like spin ? No , I'm not there yet .

Speaker 2

I'm not there yet because I was perfect and everything else . Okay , I just have to perfect my throw . I'm on a little swag , um , but yeah , so I do bowling and that's kind of like been my thing , where I'm like I have to do this for me . It's just for me , you know , it has nothing to do with anybody else . I get to have my time and escape and not just focus just on bowling . Do you go with ?

Speaker 3

friends , are you going to bowl ? Literally , yeah , I have a team .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that is so cute yeah , you guys have like a cute name . We're like we're actually we're trying to figure out a name . Right now we haven't come up with one , but yeah , we went to Vegas , uh-huh , I think , like a few months ago like on a travel yeah .

Speaker 3

Do you have special shoes .

Speaker 2

Yeah , how much shoes Wow . What color are they ? They're pink and black . That is so cute . Yeah , it's cool , it's really cool .

Speaker 3

I really think that that should be for every mom , though . Like pick up , get a hobby , it really helped you mental . Oh my gosh , yeah .

Speaker 2

Because when we took our little month break , I was like what am I doing with myself ? I'm just being a mom .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I'm just being a mom . I'm just being like I need something so I can be a good mom . I need something for me , so I can be a great mom . Exactly that makes sense . So how is it like managing friendships ? So you go from marriage where your life can be a lot about like your husband , and then you have kids , and then you go into single mom life where you need community and you need friendships , even when you're married . But we tend to like not water them as well when we're married .

Speaker 1

So it's like how do you do you have friends how ?

Speaker 2

do I manage that ? I do . I know I have friends Because when I first moved to Los Angeles it took me a long time to make friends .

Speaker 1

I was a homebody .

Speaker 2

So it made sense . I said I had a house .

Speaker 1

I know , but I had to break in . You had to be friends with your stalkers , exactly .

Speaker 2

I feel like being on this new journey of like finding myself . Another thing that I love to do is I take myself out to eat or to lunch . I literally just go by . Myself , I set up the bar and get my favorite food and I feel like doing that and putting myself out there has helped me meet new people , okay , and I have new friends now .

Speaker 1

So you probably just be like hey girl , hey , you said the best and I'm like , hey , you're cool .

Speaker 3

I said no .

Speaker 2

And then literally end up being great friends . I have met so many great people over this past year I can't even believe it Like real hardcore people who are actually like there for you , yeah , which is hard to find .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I was going to say so Because somebody would play the long game . What were we talking about ? Like some people , you know , they just uh-oh . We ain't going to like a fresh friend .

Speaker 3

No , I think it's just too like we hear the no new friends , all that stuff , and I was literally going to ask you , are you team no new friends , or you are ? You know , I used to be , yeah , okay , I used to be team .

Speaker 2

No new friends . I had my best friend . I was like I'm good with her , but then I realized that with friends friendships in general everyone brings something different to the table for you . So you have to have multiple friends , like there's that friend that you might just have fun with , you guys like to travel together . Then there's friends where you know they can help you emotionally yeah , mommy friends . So it's like I feel like I have like a good .

Speaker 1

I got a good melt and pop . Yeah , people say it's like harder to make friends when you get older , once you become a parent , but I found it easier because you know what you're looking for . Like I know the type of people I'm not looking for . A lot of friends I'm looking for , like , good , solid friends , and I've met most of my closest friends in my nearly 40s 30s .

Speaker 2

I'm not going to say right , I'm not her last year , yeah .

Speaker 3

We just met last year .

Speaker 1

Wow no way , we met at a conference yeah .

Speaker 3

Wow .

Speaker 2

In March . I know that is so cool , like besties .

Speaker 3

Okay , so you got the whole friend thing down , it seems . But I will say , with you being a popular influencer and like I mean I would say you're pretty famous , right .

Speaker 1

You don't think you're famous . You don't go out and people recognize you yeah .

Speaker 3

Okay .

Speaker 2

So what's the what's famous Foster ?

Speaker 1

syndrome . What's famous Drake ? That's famous . What makes him famous , and not you , I think it's the magnitude .

Speaker 3

Okay , so with friends , though Wait , wait .

Speaker 1

Okay , you got like a million followers . What's magnitude . Yeah , so just on one platform .

Speaker 2

I don't know , I think , because I've been doing it for so long , it's just like and because I don't visually see those people . It just looks like a number to me .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I'm like I'm not really there . That's baby . She said it's just a number .

Speaker 1

No , especially when you think about the like conversion rate to engagement . So it's like you're engaged and never looked like where's my million likes thing . I'm always like where y'all at .

Speaker 2

Y'all sleeping , I don't know . Oh , that's so true , okay okay .

Speaker 3

Well , I was gonna ask when it comes to friends , do you or have you ever had the moment where you're like I don't want to be friends with people because I don't know what their intentions are ?

Speaker 2

So I'm actually the opposite and a lot of my friends , they're the ones in my ear and they're like you do know . That person just wants to be your friend because of who you are right . And I'm like no , they're so nice and we have fun .

Speaker 2

So in that sense I had to kind of learn the hard way . I was a little naive where I'm just such a people person and I don't obviously I don't look at myself the way other people might look at me . So I made friends with people yet and then I realized , okay , maybe my other friend was right and she's like told you , they just want to be your friends , they want to come over to your house and be nosy and see what's going on .

Speaker 1

I'm like you're not gonna be in any of my content . It's just me and my nose and all my pics .

Speaker 2

I ain't got nothing . But , yeah , you'd be surprised . I mean , especially in Los Angeles , I wouldn't be surprised at all . Yeah , yeah , yeah , that's why .

Speaker 1

I'm like surprised that you just learned going out to the bar and like making a difference and I hang out by myself and go to the bar .

Speaker 2

People are gonna be like oh , she does , yeah , which one Right ? Right Now , I can't , I'm not going anymore . I'm about to start plotting on you , right , right , no , we're gonna be friends , let's do some mass prank .

Speaker 3

I'm gonna be friends Right . Oh my gosh .

Speaker 1

Yeah , no , but no , we're doing that . Yeah , yeah , yeah , it's very important .

Peace and Goal Setting in New Year

Speaker 3

Would you say as far as , as you're like kind of , I feel like this year , just you know seeing you , you're coming back out of your shell , you're you know doing things . It's like where , what has got you here , like , what are the things mainly ? Do you have main , like one big thing that you feel like has gotten you to the place where you are now between motherhood and just being out of your shell ?

Speaker 2

God , no , seriously do this journey . I feel like I'm not saying I had to go through some things , but I feel like it definitely brought me back to him , because I feel like there was a point in my life where I was super close to him and I was doing what I need to do , what I feel I need to do for God , and then I just kind of just let everything go .

Speaker 2

Yeah , because I was just kind of like everything bad stuff's happening , nothing's really working out , and I was like I'm just going to kind of take a break .

Speaker 3

Like I was .

Speaker 2

I'm still like I always love God and I know , like you know , he's the one , but I was just like I don't know I just don't feel like talking to you right now . Yeah .

Speaker 1

He was in the backseat , he just had like him drive . Yeah , he'd get in the passenger seat Maybe call me and .

Speaker 2

I'd be like I'm kind of busy right now , maybe later now , I don't know .

Speaker 3

That's for real though that's real and I'm really glad that you said that , because I think some people are so hard on themselves and they feel like I'm supposed to be doing this . And then , of course , you get on social media and where you know , you hear the devotionals and you hear the inspiration , but you're like I don't feel that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , literally .

Speaker 3

Like , what do you do when you don't feel it ? Yeah , yeah . So I said I'm kind of over social media lately because I'm like everybody got the answers .

Speaker 1

Everybody has the inspiration .

Speaker 3

And I'm just scrolling .

Speaker 1

I'm like no , you don't .

Speaker 3

Like you don't .

Speaker 1

And like when someone's going to say , like I don't have the answers .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Like this is like I don't .

Speaker 1

But you know , good luck girl , like I'm trying my best , like you , it's just . It's just gotten very overwhelming , like I got on threads Threads at first , like the first week it was real cool .

Speaker 2

Like it felt like old school twins . Now it's like it's all inspiration .

Speaker 1

So I'm just like you know what They'll copy and paste it . At this point I'm like my daughter's talking about pooping in above and below is yeah , so I'm like you don't want to do it , yep , yep , I think it's .

Speaker 3

I think it's good , like we , we do the motivational Mondays , but they're literal Mondays , y'all . I mean , like I don't got nothing for you , I'm the one that needs to be motivated right now and I think that that's . That's okay .

Speaker 2

It's okay to say that , yeah , and I feel like that's why I'm coming out of my show again , because I'm someone where I feel like , because of my platform , like I need to have an answer to something yes , and sometimes I'm like I don't know , y'all , I'm figuring out just like you . You probably can you give me advice .

Speaker 1

You might know more than me yeah , but I think that's what happened and all the platforms felt like cause I think it even happened for us . You feel like you have to have the answers Cause before all staring at you like I don't know they're like you have to . I don't know you have to , so you said you're not healed yet what would it look like to be healed ? Like what do you think that is ?

Speaker 2

I don't even know , but I'm excited for the moments you get there , but I feel like maybe just finding some peace Like I'm on that journey already , but just finding peace in everything that has happened in my life is going to happen in my life and just really work on enjoying being in the present , and I feel like that's what I battle with a lot . My brain is just always sitting there thinking about tomorrow , 10 years from now . Oh my gosh , I'm gonna die , we're not gonna stay alive . Oh my gosh , I do this , I do this . Oh my gosh , I'm not doing it .

Speaker 1

I'm like we're all just gonna die . I don't like it . I'm like we're dead and it's all black , and then I'm like but I'm dead , so black doesn't exist .

Speaker 2

So then , what's after ?

Speaker 1

black .

Speaker 3

And then , oh my gosh , it's not . It's like we're gonna make it to heaven right now . No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no no .

Speaker 2

We're spiraling . And then I'm like wait , what if I go to hell ? Oh , my gosh , I'm gonna burn it . I mean it's too much . You know , I'm stressed out . I have a gut , I have my whole money . I'm just like I can't get past the black . I haven't gotten to hell yet . Yeah , that's it . I think I'm gonna heaven . But then what if God's like girl bye .

Speaker 3

You didn't do anything I told you to do . There are a lot of . There are some goodness .

Speaker 2

No , okay , I feel like y'all have gotten my brain . I literally can't follow Inspirals of my Mondays , that's your Mondays . Then I gotta do my work and I'm like for what Cause , I don't even know , cause I'm going to hell . You about to die .

Speaker 1

So what are we even doing this ? For ? Who do we do this for ?

Speaker 2

If I sleep , at least , I go back to sleep when I get over one .

Speaker 3

I'm like that , I'm just like .

Speaker 2

I'm the same I go to sleep and I wake up . I'm like reset , Reset .

Speaker 3

it's gonna be two hours later . Oh my gosh .

Speaker 2

I'm happy that we all got on our own . No , we're all on the same page .

Speaker 3

We all spiral .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I should have like prevented late at the black black doesn't exist part , you're like I just can't get it . I have to get out of it , please , please , oh man , can we get out ?

Speaker 3

of here . I don't know . We're already there . We have spiraled down this black hole Literally , but there is no black . I'm gonna chill . Oh my gosh , I'm sorry , all right . All right , let's get out of the black hole , okay , all right , and let's really start to think about . I really want to talk about the new year . Okay , we are in 2024 . All the girls have goals .

Speaker 1

Yes , you know what I'm saying , are you one ?

Speaker 3

of the people that have like you playing your whole year out , or are you like ? Look , I need to take it one day At a time .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm the one day at a time kind of person , because I feel like I will begin to spiral again .

Speaker 1

Yes . Once I have all these goals and I'm not hitting them when I want to hit them .

Speaker 2

I at least try to have just like one big goal .

Speaker 1

Okay .

Speaker 2

I feel like for me , it's really like I mentioned before , just to learn to be present . Okay , that is my goal .

Speaker 1

There's no vision board parties . Yeah , no , she's in the way I tried it one time and I'm just like cutting your magazines , she's like this looks cute on Instagram .

Speaker 2

Exactly , it's a cute moment , but can somebody do it for me ? Yeah , right .

Speaker 3

They don't even really do magazines anymore too . How do they do them ? Yeah , they do them on the internet . Now On the apps , right , I think they will start making like apps .

Speaker 1

I'm old . Yeah , no , you're not old , I just that's what they tell old people no .

Speaker 3

I just feel like no .

Speaker 2

I'm always that like anti resolution and like .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

I'm not really I'm , I'm , I be stressed out , so I just want to focus in the moment and just get as long as I can get something done off my checklist , I'm happy .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I feel that I'm not a resolution person , I'm a word person .

Speaker 3

But that just started because of church . Church always has like the word of the year .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and so mine last year was discipline . So it's just like anything I do , yeah , be disciplined about it , like don't give myself outs , don't get lazy , or when I do , go back to that word .

Speaker 3

Yeah , cause , if you're like , I'm going to work out every day .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I'm going to bounce out of it , but I'm like I'm going to be disciplined , so I'm not going to work out every day , but I'm going to work out Wednesdays or I'm going to do five minutes . And it's like I can be disciplined in the things that I do choose to do .

Speaker 3

Mine was bigger . Yeah , I was like every time I think of something , think bigger . Every time I want to do something , do it bigger . I think , cause we I was kind of saying this early like we always , as women and as mothers , we kind of like go with life in such a way of like just enough , yeah , or if we can just do this and it's like no , we just the best , we deserve all of it . And not just some . So that was my word .

Speaker 2

So I guess , well , I have to , but one , first one would be present .

Speaker 1

Okay .

Speaker 2

Okay and consistent .

Speaker 1

Yeah , consistent Every influencer's favorite word .

Speaker 2

But not even just consistent one content . Consistent Like with myself . Yes , I don't care about myself , because I feel like I'm always focused on just being a mom , where if it's something like I'll be like I need to find a therapist .

Speaker 1

I'm saying that for the last few months and I'm like girl , just do it and be consistent , like things that I want to do and continue to do them because I'm somewhere .

Speaker 2

I have to continue to be active and be consistent for me to be happy and I've realized that .

Speaker 1

Yeah . So now I'm going to follow up on you . Like in two weeks I'm going to be like keep my own jerk there . Because you know better help if you're just going to like do it on my own . Like you can do it , call me accountable , yeah . Your friends are not your therapist .

Speaker 2

Exactly , they are not your therapist . No , they are not .

Speaker 1

Because you know , that's just the .

Speaker 3

My journal is my therapist right now . I wish I could journal .

Speaker 1

You can . I'm trying , so no , I've tried a billion times and I'm not it .

Speaker 3

But this is what I've been telling people .

Speaker 1

It's like I think we think it has to be like this whole thing where it has to be a full page . Yeah , why don't you just journal like I'm happy today ? Yeah .

Speaker 3

Yeah , some of my interns are literally like five sentences . Really , yeah , like okay , this morning it was God . I thank you for just allowing me to even be able to do this show .

Speaker 1

Great , let's go because you have to practice the muscles . Yeah , cuz I think it's like I used to use , like my I have a resting D face or whatever , and I'm like this is just my face and I'm like . You can always say this is just who I am or I don't do this , but you can if you practice yeah and so it's like I started short journaling and I don't do it every day , but I don't beat myself up if I haven't done it in five days .

Speaker 3

I don't see .

Speaker 1

I don't do it , I just have to try to catch it . And then Megan Markle Showed me this personally through her documentary on Netflix .

Speaker 3

I said you remember , tell me more . I'm gonna be her friend . I'm like when were you gonna tell me this ?

Speaker 1

So , through her , documentary on Netflix when she said Blair , but no , they do video journaling and it's really cool because I started doing it last year and it's like to see where you were last year or like it's , the one time it's actually okay to cry on .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , it is your personal because you can save them all .

Speaker 1

Your daughter can look at them one day , because . Like this girl I know she was talking about . She tries never to cry in front of her daughter . I was like I think it's okay to cry in front of your child and explain that everybody .

Speaker 2

I will say I'm one of those moms . You try to hide it , yeah , but she .

Speaker 1

My thing is like you don't everyone heard it feel like she has to like yeah . And I think there's a lesson , because I tell my daughter , like I'm the first one to say , like we don't cry about all this , you need to get it together . I'm not like let's cry about everything . But I think she's seen me cry and I'll explain . Like see I get stressed out , or I feel this way .

Speaker 1

But this is what I'm trying to do to calm down so that when she feels that way , she doesn't feel like she has to hide .

Speaker 3

I never see my cuz .

Speaker 1

I never saw my mom cry .

Speaker 3

Yeah , so it's like we don't cry yeah , do this but it's healthy sometimes .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so I think it's just the description right out .

Speaker 1

But yeah , so you can actually cry on camera without looking like a crazy person .

Speaker 2

I'll be crying on camera and then I'll start laughing at myself .

Speaker 1

I .

Speaker 2

Swear that is me .

Speaker 1

Look at yourself after you cry . Like give yourself five minutes after . And it's like but yeah , video , video journal is really cool to like be able to go back to it . Yeah , one day , you know like kind of like a time capsule .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I like that too , especially with my daughter . That would be cute to do .

Speaker 3

Yes , now we have our one last question . This has been amazing . I can't believe . I know basically over , yeah , but what do you think moms actually need to hear ?

Speaker 2

Oh , Don't be so hard on yourself . I know it's so cliche to say but yeah , it's the truth . Like you kids alive and healthy . You're doing well , like you're showing up the best you can , literally like , don't be so hard on yourself . Yeah , I think that's yeah , that's good .

Speaker 3

It's alive , the baby is alive . I'm keeping them alive , yes , which is very hard . It's very hard to take care of a whole human right , good .

Speaker 2

You're so alive and you baby , yes .

Speaker 3

Because you can be keeping the human alive .

Speaker 1

Yes , and I'm there a lot sometimes yeah , it's like man we get there , they can care of everybody else . Yeah , and not yourself take it yourself .

Speaker 3

So that's the lesson of the day .

Speaker 2

That is a lesson .

Speaker 3

Yes , be what you say . Don't be so hard on yourself , don't be so hard on yourself .

Speaker 2

Don't be so hard on yourself , don't beat yourself up .

Speaker 3

I love that .

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Think about it .

Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

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